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screwem

I've been reading all the message forums and am inpressed with all the info. Great site and thanks for all that contribute.
Heres my deal. I have to find a new job and most of the places I want to work for do hair test now. I'm not up against the wall yet but 90+ days is along time to go unemployed. I have some time though I'd like to speed it up.
I'm a white guy 240 Lbs with brown hair ( I'd say normal hair). In the last 90 days I've smoked about half oz of pot and that's all, nothing else.The last time I smoked was about two weeks ago.
I really, really don't want to bleach my hair or burn up my scalp either if I can help it. I was wondering what you all thought about getting a hair cut and using Zydot or Toxin Wash 4 or 5 times between now and a month from now?
I do plan on paying for my own test before I ever even apply for a new job. What do you think, whos best to do your own test?
Well any idea,s or sujestions would be great. Thanks in advance!!

 

Jerry G

I don't think that will do it...

You have smoked about a gram a week, not heavy use, but more than enough to need some treatment.

No pain, no gain...

Good luck...

DaGodsChoir

With your useage the MacCujo and Zydot should be sufficient.

NeedInfo

I agree with Jerry. Mac wont b enough. Have u read results for users with brown hair and success Mac has had? Not good. Bleach/dye once or twice with zydot or Toxin wash should do the trick. Try a baking soda paste to get those cuticles opened up as well. Definatley dont rely on Mac with your hair type. Your test, your results. So do what ya want. Just tryin 2 give u some feedback. Good luck!!

DaGodsChoir

Hair color doesn't have as much of an effect on passing as smoking history does.

The bleach/dye method is fairly effective but not necessary, considering the OP's smoking history.

The smoking history combined with the OP stating they didn't want to bleach/dye is reason to use the MacCujo/Zydot method instead of the Bleach/Dye method.

If you read the results you will see that many more people have used the MacCujo method than the Bleach/Dye method. If you did the math you would see that the MacCujo method especially when combined with Zydot, really doesn't have that bad of a record.

Also the Bleach/Dye is combined with Toxin Wash, Zydot, Baking Soda etc. So what is the key for the Bleach/Dye? Do you know for sure? Is it really the Bleach/Dye that is getting the results? Even the Bleach/Dye has had failures with heavy smokers. Who can really say which one is better, unless there was a scientific comparison. All there is in the results is pass/fail and the methods that were used. The aren't any scientific studies.

Say for instance the OP used the Bleach/Dye method and passed. Would he have passed using just Zydot, the Mac method, a combination of the two. We will never know.

If he uses the MacCujo/Zydot method and passes does that mean the method he used is better than the Bleach/Dye method?

You definitely can't say to the OP "Don't trust the Mac method with your hair color". Many people with brown and black hair have passed. Again, hair color doesn't dictate pass or fail with a method. There have been reports of blonde and redheads passing easier. Still no proof just reports and speculation.

I would bet the OP will pass with Mac/Zydot. We may never know.
I also would bet he would pass with Bleach/Dye. We may never know.

I agree with Jerry that the OP needs treatment. Jerry never said the OP needed to Bleach/dye. He said he "needed treatment".

Just my

 

screwem

Thanks guy! your great! I apriciate all the input.
I'm lucky I have some time to plan ahead and get a program together. I'll keep the board updated on what I decide to do and the results.
I got a few questions though.
Whats your oppion of the Idavisa method? I read about on another board.
I'm kinda confused on what's best to open up the hair, baking soda, vinager, or relaxer?
It makes sense to open up the hairs so you could use some type of cleaning agent to strip the THC. But there seems to be some disagreement on this issue. And I don't want to start an argument either, I just want to know what you think.
Like I said I have some time. Planings the key to getting by on these drug test. The last job I had for about 10 years, they did random UA's and I probably took 6 or 7 of them and passed everyone of them. Ain't bragging, just true, but I was always ready and never ever let my gaurd down. I guess if I go to work where they do random hair test my smoking day's are over. But I guess thats the world we live in. Sucks!
Well thanks again!

DaGodsChoir

The Indavisa method hasn't been discussed to much here. There are a couple of posts about it. I think one passed and one failed.YaHooka has more info on that method and have had a few say that they passed using it. With the small amount of info on it here, maybe the other forum would be the place to ask questions about that method. It seems to be about the same results as any of the other methods. Some pass and some fail.

NeedInfo

Never claimed 2 b an expert, just from what Ive read ( did a lot of that over past couple weeks ) people w/ darker hair using mac/zydot treatment, a lot more fails than pass have been posted.

You're correct, and I also seen a lot more fails w/ those treating w/ Mac.

Look your probably right, he's probably fine w/ a Mac/zydot. I was givin him the cons of Mac treatment. There r a lot more than bleach/redye. From what I've read n e way. Better safe than sorry, right?

U seem 2 know a lot about hair tests, old tokin friend maybe?

N e way, not tryin 2 contradict u, or step on anybodies toes. Just sharin some valuable info that helped me.

screwem

All advice is welcome guys and thanks for your thoughts.

Still trying to put something togather that will be affective. On the Mac method, I don't understand the use of vinager which is an acid. On a hair care web site I read about the use of dyes and they said to use a alkalie solution to open up the hair cuticles so they will accept the dye. Where what we want to do is clean the hairs out, acid will close the hairs up. But if you want to clean the outside of the hairs, vinager my work great. I assume that some people are using baking soda for that purpose. Is that what the relaxers do also? I guess the zit cleaner is for actualy removing the THC?

Maybe I'll come up with the screwem method! Ha!

Have any of you used or know somebody that has used Hair Razor?
They sure talk a lot of shit about Zydot, Toxin Wash and others.
Like theirs is the best and I have no way of knowing. I've never used any of them.
Well have a good day and thanks!

GREENFOODGAMES

Mac method has a higher success rate with individuals with lighter fine hair, those with darker hair tend not to have the same luck with the mac method. Zydot is a good treatment but tends not to be enough alone in many cases. Baking soda paste I found to be more effective when used with hydrogen peroxide then water when making the paste. It's you're test Screwem you have to do it not us, the bleach and redye seems to produce the best results, Toxin wash and Zydot together seems to be a good idea as well but it is expensive, JerryG has a good track record of helping people and if he tell's you to consider doing more I would. 1 bleach and redye will not kill your head and may make a significant differance for you, I would say 2 and you are worry free, the only way these tend to hurt is if you do them to close to eachother, I used head and shoulders to help any damage that was being done to my scalp and I never had any burn marks or anything just the back of my ears dries out. Wish you the best of luck