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Please help! My situation is different than what I've read thus far...I was a daily smoker for almost 3 years. I stopped exactly 3 weeks ago and will be taking a hair test in 6 weeks (will be 60 days clean by then). Will I be okay to give a hair sample? Will those shampoos really work if I start using it now?

Check out this website and let me know what you think. They have good testimonials...not sure if they are all legit though.

.passyourdrugtest.com/kits/hair-tests.htm
.passyourdrugtest.com/testimonials.htm

What are some of my other options? If I'm 90 days clean am I guaranteed to pass?

 

FakeBoobsRule

Many questions in this post that need some answering I see. Will you be okay to give a sample in 60 days? Probably not. If you cut you hair so that it was less than an inch in length maybe. The hair on your head grows about 1/2 inch per month so if you are clean for 60 days then 1 inch of new hair would probably be clean. I say probably because no one knows for sure how long it takes till after you smoke for your blood levels to drop to the point where the blood levels are low enough that no detectable amount is deposited into growing hair. Also, it takes a few days (5-10 days) for the corresponding hair to grow out enough from the root. So if your new hair growth is clean on day X then it isn't till day x + 5 days or even x + 10 days, maybe even x + 14 days before this new hair growth has come up out of the hair follicle far enough to be cut. If you cut too short though you might get rejected or they would go with an alternate hair site like underarms, chest, pubic, or even fingernails.

Will those shampoos really work if I start using it now?
Most of those shampoos you can buy online recommend using them 8 hours before the test and not daily leading up to the test. If you can afford buying a couple dozen bottles of them then knock yourself out. On the other hand, you can do the macujoy method found here in this forum several times leading up to the test. Did you see it? Look in the forum hair, blood, saliva testing forum index and you will see it "Easy way of passing.." He says he only did it once but I wasn't taking any chances and I did it daily for about 2 weeks then the last 2-3 days before I did it about 8 more times. I also used on of the shampoos available online 2 hours before the test. I bought 3 different kinds so I could compare them once I got them and I ended up using the Zydot brand. So since I used both Macujoy and Zydot before my test and passed, I don't know which one worked if not both. I saw the passyourtest.com offering and I didn't like it. It was overpriced and when I called to ask them some questions about it they tried to sell me more stuff. I don't recommend them at all. Paul Mitchell shampoo Cleanse 3 and Nexxus Aloe Rid Treatment (not the Nexxus Aloe Rid shampoo) have also been recommended on here by many but these shampoos are used along with the macujoy method in most cases. So you could use these 2 shampoos leading up to the final treatment on your hair the day of the test, whatever method or product you choose.

Are you guaranteed to pass if you are clean for 90 days. Because the hair test becomes unreliable after 90 days that is all they are supposed to go back. But, because every body is different as far as how fast hair grows and how long it takes till after you smoke for your blood levels to drop to the point where it isn't deposited into the hair, I would say it is close to 90 days give or take a few days either way. Hell a few days though could be one or maybe even 10, no one really knows exactly because they are keeping this from us but it has to be close to 90 days.

cyclops

I agree mainly w/ boobs - heres my take on your questions.

a) Without treatment you will fail your test after 60 days.

b) The consensus is most of those detox shampoos are a waste of money. There are ppl on this site who failed after using these supposidly 100% effective treatments. Nothing is full proof. Zydot shampoo has been shown to reduce THC metabolites in the hair by as much as 20% after one treatment though. I would not believe testimonials on a site that is charging ~$50 per bottle of shampoo!

c)
i) UV rays will destroy THC metabolites over time - get lots of sun
ii) People swear by Paul Mitchel III and Aloe Rid treatment (not the shampoo); again remember nothing it 100% effective. These are relatively cheap ~$8 and are normal sized shampoo bottles that will last for a few weeks. Start using these daily
iii) MacCujo your hair the night before and the day of the test
iv) Bleach your hair and dye it back at some point before the test
v) If you plan on using one of the expensive treatments, do so on the day of the test in conjunction with the MacCujo method.

d) At 90 days clean,and without any treatment, you are not guareented to pass - you have an excellent chance of passing ( I would say well over 90%) but nothing is guareented

Ultimately, I think if you follow the advice of myself and boobs you will pass your test after only 60 days clean. Many ppl have used a conjunction of these methods and passed with flying colors but there are some that dont pass - nothing is certain

1tokeovertheline

Some real good advice you gave. The part I quoted here is what I liked the best. It can't be said enough as far as I am concerned. There are still a lot of people that think there is a "magic cure" to pass a hair test. I just had a friend stop in today that hasn't been around in a while and he starts telling me how so and so said if you just do blah, blah, blah you can pass a hair test anytime without abstaining from drugs. He was here a long time and was real interested in what I showed him on this site and the discussion we had. After reading a few post he decided the guy that give him the info was full of shit. My friend was under the impression that what worked for one person worked for another everytime. There is a lot of false info being passed around on the street concerning drug testing.

legalizeweed

Thanks for the advice... I think I should also mention that I am an African American female with long hair, so cutting it is not an option now...maybe later to help maintain my youthful look. Especially since the HR person knows me from my previous job.

I also read somthing about darker toned ppl (blacks, indians, brzilians, etc...) having THC produced in our skin tone making it 10 - 50 times less likely to pass hair tests than lighter tones ppl. Is that true? Is it possible to do a pretest before the actual test if I go to a Psychemedic or Quest lab? If so what do you think it will cost?

I went to 8 different stores looking for Paul Mitchel III and Aloe Rid treatment then ended up ordering it online. I'll also get the Zydot and use the Macujoy method. Will I still have healthy hair when this is all said and done? Kinda reminds me of an American Express commercial.

Bag of weed: $20

Hair products to remove THC traces: $100

Paasing the drug test, Getting the job, & Not going bald: PRICELESS

I'll be sure to let you know how it goes...THX!

 

1tokeovertheline

You can get a home test from psychemedics online. AA's reportedly do have a harder time passing a hair test. Check this post by bubbakushky out. Good luck.

http://www.marijuana.com/420/showthread.php?t=45789

JackBauer

Darker toned people don't actually produce THC in their skin. It is harder though for them to pass the hair test because the melanin which helps pigment skin and hair and give a tan does "hold" on to the THC stronger in their hair making it harder.

Will you have healthy hair after all is said and done? My hair has undergone some "damage" but not as much as you would think.

1tokeovertheline

Actually it is the make up of the hair that makes it harder. Coarse, thick, dark hair has a medulla in the hair shaft. Lighter hair doesn't have it. Reportedly people with red hair have the best chance of passing. That fact has been mentioned on this site and you can do a search with your favorite search engine also.

Here is an example of what I found on this site from a previous post take it or leave it.

JackBauer

Interesting stuff there toker! I had remember reading about melanin and hair test a month or so ago when I started my research about hair tests. I just went back to find some of that info and it seems that there may be some contradicting studies. I found studies that talk about melanin causes drugs to bind to hair more easily and studies that say the hair test is colorblind. I even found a lawsuit by 7 AA Boston Police officers in August of 2005 where they are suing because they have evidence that the melanin in their hair causes a bias in the testing. I also found some definitions about the medulla and how it is not found in fine or light hair. However, I cannot find anything about the medulla and its effects on drug testing. I would post some of these links but I am not sure what the rules are. I think I have violated thoses rules recently and I don't want to piss anyone off. I'm not saying you are wrong but I can't find anything about medulla and its effects on hair testing. Also, like I said it seems some of the websites say melanin does affect the hair test and others say it doesn't. Could it be a combination of the courseness from the medulla and the higher levels of melanin?

One thing I am almost certain those is that skin in people with high levels of melanin does not produce THC!

cyclops

[quote=JackBauer;430075]Interesting stuff there toker! I had remember reading about melanin and hair test a month or so ago when I started my research about hair tests. I just went back to find some of that info and it seems that there may be some contradicting studies. I found studies that talk about melanin causes drugs to bind to hair more easily and studies that say the hair test is colorblind. I even found a lawsuit by 7 AA Boston Police officers in August of 2005 where they are suing because they have evidence that the melanin in their hair causes a bias in the testing. I also found some definitions about the medulla and how it is not found in fine or light hair. However, I cannot find anything about the medulla and its effects on drug testing. I would post some of these links but I am not sure what the rules are. I think I have violated thoses rules recently and I don't want to piss anyone off. I'm not saying you are wrong but I can't find anything about medulla and its effects on hair testing. Also, like I said it seems some of the websites say melanin does affect the hair test and others say it doesn't. Could it be a combination of the courseness from the medulla and the higher levels of melanin?

One thing I am almost certain those is that skin in people with high levels of melanin does not produce THC![/QUOTE


What I do know is that when trying to destory THC metabolites with light, melanin is a disadvantage. This is proven in the scientific paper below:
http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/46/11/1846#T1

I'm sure there are other disadvantages that melanin has on metabolite removal by other means e.g chemical means - its a very big molecule, which makes it difficult for some of the compounds used in various treatments to come in contact with the desired metabolite etc. etc.

The medulla is something unrelated to melanin - if you have dark hair you probably wont have a medulla unless you are AA or of asian decent. It is essentially a seperate sheath within the hair that encapsulates compounds and makes then much more difficult to get at.

Here is an analogy:

A kid wants a candy bar in his mother purse.

First of all its pretty difficult for him to figure out how to open the purse but once he has done so volla - the candy bar (which is already open) is his for the taking and he eats it.

Next time around his mother sticks pins in the purse - this is the melanin. The kid succeeds in opening the purse but it takes longer and is more painstacking to remove the chocolate - if he is clever he simply removes the pins first which makes the whole process considerable easier (bleach destoys melanin).

The final time around, not only has the mother put pins in the bag but the candy bar has now been placed in a vacuumed sealed plastic bag (melanin + medulla). This sure makes it much tougher for the kid to get the candy.... not impossible, but very hard. Hopefully, the kid doesnt give up.