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Old 08-26-2006, 08:36 AM   #1
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I am 6'2", 180 pound male with shoulder length dark blonde hair. I jog for roughly one hour each day. I last smoked 21 days ago (August 5th), and split a moderately-sized bowl with a few others. Prior to that, I wouldn't smoke more than about once a week. My usual habits were more in the field of once a month.

Thinking I would be taking the test 8/21, I used the STAT! Detox shampoo as directed, twice. I took every aptitude test, every math test, every personality test (and did well), etc. On 8/22, I find out the Director who I was supposed to talk to had some sort of personal issue, and would not be able to finish the hiring process with me because he was not at work. It is now 8/25 (or it was 30 minutes ago), and I have not taken the test. I am guessing I will take it early next week. I took the shampoo (which is supposed to completely cleanse, but only for 24 hours? I figured it was related to the eventual release of 'dirty' perspiration into the hair), I have always used a shampoo with EDTA, and I have twice used laundry detergent to wash my hair.

Can someone give me an honest opinion? Am I good to go? Will I have to destroy my hair (and how would I then attract the ladies?) in order to pass the test? Help me with the narcomilitarism.
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Old 08-26-2006, 09:52 AM   #2
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I was concerned about hair damage. After the Mocuju (spelling) treatment I found my hair in better shape than it was before...I was worried my hair would fall out...Not the case.

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Old 08-27-2006, 12:04 PM   #3
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It just sounds so insane, and I kept reading from people whose skin went peeling off, to no avail on the test day. Does anyone have a ballpark estimate of Macujo's success rate? Can a Chemistry major perhaps come out of the woodwork and tell me if I am already fine?
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I am 6'2", 180 pound male with shoulder length dark blonde hair. I jog for roughly one hour each day. I last smoked 21 days ago (August 5th), and split a moderately-sized bowl with a few others. Prior to that, I wouldn't smoke more than about once a week. My usual habits were more in the field of once a month.

Thinking I would be taking the test 8/21, I used the STAT! Detox shampoo as directed, twice. I took every aptitude test, every math test, every personality test (and did well), etc. On 8/22, I find out the Director who I was supposed to talk to had some sort of personal issue, and would not be able to finish the hiring process with me because he was not at work. It is now 8/25 (or it was 30 minutes ago), and I have not taken the test. I am guessing I will take it early next week. I took the shampoo (which is supposed to completely cleanse, but only for 24 hours? I figured it was related to the eventual release of 'dirty' perspiration into the hair), I have always used a shampoo with EDTA, and I have twice used laundry detergent to wash my hair.

Can someone give me an honest opinion? Am I good to go? Will I have to destroy my hair (and how would I then attract the ladies?) in order to pass the test? Help me with the narcomilitarism.
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It just sounds so insane, and I kept reading from people whose skin went peeling off, to no avail on the test day. Does anyone have a ballpark estimate of Macujo's success rate? Can a Chemistry major perhaps come out of the woodwork and tell me if I am already fine?
First of all, I am one of those people who had a little peeling. It wasn't on my scalp as it was on the edge of my forehead and scalpline. It wasn't that bad either. It was like the peeling you might get after a very mild sunburn, like the first good tan of the season that gets a little red and peels off a few days later. In fact, like someone else said, my hair was softer the first few times I did it then the damage occured after about the 14th or so treatment! I ended up doing about 20 treatments and about 8 of them the last 2 days before the test. If you don't do that many treatments or you space them out well, you shouldn't worry about peeling. Like I said it was no big deal and I healed quickly and it was well worth it. Losing my job would have been much more painful.

Back to your situation, I don't think exercising helps with the hair test. You said in one sentence that you smoked about once a week then later said about once a month. It takes about 3 times over the last 90 days to show up. My smoking habits were much more than yours either way so that is one reason why I went overboard with the treatments. A major reason why the Stat shampoo says to use within 8 hours is because your hair is constantly growing and the hair that was not exposed to the shampoo or treatments will make its way to the surface where it can be included in the cut sample and could be dirty, depending on when you last smoked. If you buy more shapoo, I used the Zydot Ultra Clean. It seems to have good results on here, not perfect, but good. As far as what percentage the macujoy treatment works, I am going to send that estimated number in a PM instead of posting it because I really don't want to give a number and it be wrong and every one read it. I think it is an accurate number but some people still will think that if they do the treatment, then they will pass. Some of these people might have passed because they had only smoked once during this 90 days and some might have passed because they did other things like hair bleaching or using detox shampoos so these are included in this percentage. No one is sure about whether it is the EDTA or propylene glycol that is in these shampoos that help you pass. This has been a long running friendly debate. Best thing, use both on your hair. Clarify your smoking history for the last 90 days a bit more. I think you are saying it could be once a week sometimes but lately it has been closer to once a month. In both cases, you are a good candidate to beat the test.
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Old 08-28-2006, 04:09 AM   #5
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A major reason why the Stat shampoo says to use within 8 hours is because your hair is constantly growing and the hair that was not exposed to the shampoo or treatments will make its way to the surface where it can be included in the cut sample and could be dirty, depending on when you last smoked.

The reason I brought that up is because I was under the impression that new substances will be introduced into your hair within 2 weeks of the use of those substances. If I had taken a 16 day break before using the shampoo (I used it on the 21st, twice), and have not used since, how would a "cleansed" substance still be in my hair, or reintroduce itself to my hair by new growth? Thank you for being patient with me on this, I must not get it.

To clarify my use history, I usually use once a month, roughly. Over the summer, I had been using closer to twice a month, the period of mid-July probably being twice a week. Again, August 5th would be the last (fairly light) use, after a little over a week of not using.
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The reason I brought that up is because I was under the impression that new substances will be introduced into your hair within 2 weeks of the use of those substances. If I had taken a 16 day break before using the shampoo (I used it on the 21st, twice), and have not used since, how would a "cleansed" substance still be in my hair, or reintroduce itself to my hair by new growth? Thank you for being patient with me on this, I must not get it.

To clarify my use history, I usually use once a month, roughly. Over the summer, I had been using closer to twice a month, the period of mid-July probably being twice a week. Again, August 5th would be the last (fairly light) use, after a little over a week of not using.
This is another debate on here. If you stop using, how long will it take before your body stops depositing THC into new hair growth. Hair is always growing and always exposed to whatever is in the bloodstream. The first 10-14 day delay is because the hair that was exposed to THC metabolites after you smoked has not made its way out of the follicle below the scalp and to the surface of the scalp. Then there is another period of time from when you last smoke till blood levels of THC drop enough that you stop depositing THC metabolites into the hair. This is what is unsure, how long after you stop smoking before new hair doesn't contain THC metabolites. If you smoked a half ounce a week it will probably be longer than someone who smokes twice a month. So if you last smoked on July 1st, the hair that received blood with THC metabolites will take around 10-14 days to reach the surface of the scalp to where it could be cut. But then you still have a few more days before your body stops depositing THC metabolites into new hair growth even though you haven't smoked. To be sure, 16 days seems to be cutting it close. If you had used the shampoo maybe 30 days after last smoking and with your light history, you would probably be good to go. But 16 days is right on the window so if it were me, I would play it safe and treat the hair again with some of the methods or detox shampoo or the Paul Mitchell or Nexxus aloe rid or Malibu. I hope that made sense this time.
You do have a light history so like I said, you are a good candidate to pass with some work.
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Old 08-27-2006, 09:20 PM   #7
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It just sounds so insane, and I kept reading from people whose skin went peeling off, to no avail on the test day. Does anyone have a ballpark estimate of Macujo's success rate? Can a Chemistry major perhaps come out of the woodwork and tell me if I am already fine?

Something we lack on this site is data on the pass/failure rates of the hair tests after treatment therefore, I have weeded through sections of both the MacCujo and results threads and have obtained the following crude data sets:

i) Mac thread
Overview: the majority of people who posted during this time frame used the Mac method only.
Time frame examined: 8/25/05-10/8/05.
Number of people surveyed: 34
Sucess rate: 70.5%.

ii) Results thread
Overview: The posts of people that used the MacCujo methodology as part of their treatment were studied. Many of these individuals also used additional treatment plans (Aloe rid, PMIII, afterburner, Zydot, perms, color treatments, relaxers, bleaching treatments, pool exposure etc.)
Time frame examined: 10/21/05-8/16/06.
Number of people surveyed: 50
Success rate: 80%.


These are overall results and do not take into account: race, gender, potency of herb, amount smoked/frequency/days clean before the test, metabolic rate, hair type, etc.etc. which all contribute to the success, or lack thereof, of each individual who takes the test. However, I think the clear trend is that the Mac method alone has a very good success rate - with additional forms of treatment the success rate increases by 10% (absolute).
Many people on this site are discouraged easily when they read of posters who have failed their hair test however, when one goes through the data, it is apparent that the odds of passing this test are reasonable with treatment - not 100% guareented, far from it, but still in your favor.
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I have used dishsoap to wash my hair, and I have been using Aloe Rid daily. I believe I am going to go swimming in an outdoor pool (for a lot of chlorine exposure, to top off the high levels in the tap water), and I have been flirting with using the Maccujo method as well. This job is even better than I thought, and it is mine if I pass this test. Should I do this? Is it necessary?

So, does anyone know WHICH casinos test for marijuana, and which casinos only test 10% of their samples?
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