sublime231

I am about to get a new job and i have to get a hair and urine test next week probly wednesday or thursday. havent smoked since thursday. occassional smoker, a few times a week. I have been drinking a lot of water.. i am gonna do the macujo method as many times as i can before the test. i also bought some detox stuff from my local smoke shop. some nasty looking drink and the omni detox shampoo. what else should i do? im also gonna try and get a hair cut before. i have kinda long hair but not relly long. im not too worried about the urine test. should i be? would sauna and exercise help? Thanks a lot. any sugestions???

Jerry G

Forget the detox drink, look into subbing for the urine test. You also need to find out if the test is observed. If that is the situation, read the dilution sticky, you will be lucky to pass with dilution based on your clean time.

You have very little clean time for the hair test. look into bleaching and dying.

If you can't bleach and dye, do the mac treatment many times, followed by the omni shampoo on the day of the test.

If you don't pass the hair test, your levels should be fairly low. If this is the case and you do successfully substitute or dilute, beg for mercy, saying you only smoked a time or two a couple of months ago. Be prepared to be retested on a random basis from time to time if you are lucky enough to get the job.

This place is serious if they are going to the expense of two tests.

Let us know the results.

sublime231

i dont think i can sub. i did the mac treatment earlier and used this special shampoo with 3% sacilcilyic acid instead of the clean and clear stuff with only 2%. is that ok? the guy at the smoke shop said the drink and shampoo only work for 5 hours so i think they will be ok but i dunno.. i cant belach/dye. im gonna do the mac treatment as many times as i can.. any other tips to pass the urine test?

smlhouse

If you have straight hair and you dont want to deal with hair color changes, you can also try a hair straightener from any old drug store. It kind of changes the way your hair feels, but if you have shorter hair its not a problem.


If you do go for the hair straightner, after you apply the straighter solution and rinse it out, use your special hair shampoo that you bought and any other special shampoo's (paul mitchell 3, nexxus aloe rid shampoo and deep clarifying treatment), then apply the neutralizer. I chose to leave the neutralizer in for longer than they recommend because it contains hydrogen peroxide. The color change to my hair wasnt drastic and I have medium brown hair.

My hair test is this coming friday, so i cant say for sure if its full proof yet.

Jerry G

You can believe the guy selling the drink, or you can believe us. Do some research here. The drink is dilution, but it does not address creatine and specific gravity.

I would follow the mac method exactly, go buy a 5 buck bottle of clean and clear. Follow the last mac treatment with the head shop shampoo.Like Smlhouse said, hair straighteners have also been shown to help people with little clean time.

You are not a great candidate for passing either test. You need to do all you can. Do you want this job or not?

BTW, a few times a week makes you a regular smoker with little clean time.

1tokeovertheline

I agree with you 100%. Salesman are trying to sell a product. We are trying to help with free advice and methods.
Also, Jerry G.....You are a good addition to the site. Thanks for all the input so far and your input to come. Keep up the good work.

smlhouse

I know bleaching/dyeing or using a straightner sounds like a pain, but as jerry g said, you are not a good candidate for passing.

A lot of people have posted success through bleaching/dyeing and using straightners without a lot of clean time. From my experience, using a straightner was not much trouble at all if you have someone around to help you and it did not destroy my hair.

Here is a study i found addressing the ability of bleaching and straightners on reducing drug concentrations:

M. YEGLES
Lab. National Santé – Toxicologie, Univ. Luxembourg, 162a, av. Faïencerie, L-1551 Luxembourg

Hair cosmetic treatments like bleaching and dyeing products (use of hydrogen peroxide), perming or straightening products (use of ammonium thioglycollate followed by hydrogen peroxide) were found to decrease the original drug concentration in hair. These treatments cause porosity, changes in the molecular structure of the hair pigment, and damages to the cuticle. This may lead to a partial loss of drug substances by leaching of drugs out from the
hair matrix.
Several studies have shown that hydrogen peroxide may also change the chemical structure of drugs as for example for cocaine, opiates and amphetamines. Furthermore, a decrease of benzodiazepines
concentrations was observed after in vitro bleaching of hair, which was more due to chemically degradation by hydrogen peroxide than to a leaching out process from the hair matrix.
Commonly used hair treatments (e.g. shampoos using anionic detergents) generally have minor influence on hair drug concentration. Even, the use of Ultra Clean™, a declared drug remover shampoo from hair, only slightly decreased the drugs concentrations in hair.

sublime231

is the aloe rid shampoo a must? i have a gallon thing of gatorade. will drinking that help if i added salt? if so then when should i drink it? another quick question.. should i get a hair cut or does it really matter? i mean i only started smokin 5 months ago. so basically my question is do they pull the enitre hair out or do they just snip the 1.5 inch chunk out? thanks

1tokeovertheline

No.
Click on drug testing at the top of the page and then Urine Test for answers to piss test questions. Read the Dilution sticky and the Substitution sticky.
You don't need to get a hair cut. They snip close to the scalp with scissors and the first 1.5 inches from the scalp is tested. Ususally in three spots across the crown of the head.

sublime231

thanks a lot for all the input guys. ive done the macujo treatment three times now and im goin to buy some of that chemical straightening stuff tomorrow. i was planning on doin that the day before.. is that a good time?