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dirtdevil · 04-26-2008, 06:17 PM

Everyone reading this needs to go to my posts, dirtdevil posts moved here. It adress the everything in here, though it may not give you answers.

I guess the reason they say to use it the day of the test is that it can still be deposited in your hair if your body is still dirty. Now, jerry strongly disagrees w/me on this, and I know he knows alot, i just think on this one there should at least be some more consideration. I posed the question to two labs who do hair testing, should I wait 90 days after quiting smoking or 90 days after my body was clean (when i could pass a piss test). They both said 90 days after my body was clean (check my post to see it exactly). IF this is true, then you could purge your hair of the toxins with the shampoo, but if you wait very long new toxins from the blood will be deposited in the hair unless your body is totally clean of THC. Mac also says to do his method THE DAY OF the test. Zydot says the same thing. The marketing is starting to add up, and besides, if we cant trust it at all then why buy any of it, its all marketing and again, if you could use it 1 week before the test and still pass, then why wouldnt they just say that? It makes no sense, it would actually make the product more appealing because you could use it and forget it.

Granted, if JG is right, it could be on there for those people who smoked recently and still have it floating in their blood, or the contaminated hair on their head hasnt risin above the scalp yet, but I have my doubts now as many sources tell a diff story. Blood flows through fat, maybe if you have a high enough contamination, the metabs in your blood stay in their longer breaking down your deposits.

Plus, when they check urine, dont they check for the mtabs in urine too? If so, then i had the metabs in my urine for two months, thats how long i pissed dirty, and wouldnt they therefore be in my blood too? How do they get from fat cells back to the kidney and ultimately the bladder if not by the blood stream? Im not sure on that, but it seems to make sense.

Also, go to my posts and lets see what everyone thinks about propylene glycol verses glyrol. The ingredients have changed, though sec seems to think this could possibly be a typo on my box, which is very possible, but even if thats the case the order its listed in has also changed, meaning the amount your getting has been lowered, either way this list is invalid now.

dirtdevil · 04-26-2008, 06:29 PM

Dilution
Dilution refers to diluting the metabolites in your system. Dilution does NOT remove the drug metabolites from your system, but simply reduces the drug metabolites in your urine sample to a level, which may allow for a negative result.
For drugs such as THC, which are fat-soluble, are impossible to get rid of with any other method than exercise. Fat cells secrete fat with drug metabolites at a constant rate, regardless of what herbs you consume. You may be able to temporarily clean drug metabolites from your bloodstream, or dilute your fluids to yield a larger urine/drug ratio, but your bloodstream will continue collecting drug metabolites from fat. Your urine will continue collecting drug metabolites from your bloodstream.
Drug Testing 101.com - Passing Your Drug Test - Dilution

ismokeallthetime · 07-01-2008, 04:19 PM

Just a FYI, I just purchased the Zydot Ultra Clean directly from Zydot and the ingredients are exactually the same as in the first post and in the same order.

ADistantShadow · 08-21-2008, 07:46 PM

Just purchased a box of zydot ultra clean from my local head-shop. First off, the guy working there told me that zydot has a good reputation as far as their detox drinks are concerned, and he's heard great things about the shampoo. He recommended it to me, and then said that be aware that you have a 12 hour time window.

I will use it the morning of my test, but I have also taken previous measures such as the Mac method and using Ion washes.

This box is from Lot# 907, Best By: 9/09

Ingredients

Shampoo: Purified water, sodium lareth sulfate, stearalkonium chloride, aloe vera gel, glyceryl stearate, cocamidopropyl betaine, glyceryl cocoate, sodium PCA, Tetrasodium EDTA, Panthenol, Citric Acid, Methylparaben, DMDM Hydantoin, FD&C Yellow #5 & #6, FD&C Blue #1, Fragrance

Purifier: Purified water, stearalkonium chloride, aloe vera gel, propylene glycol, EDTA, Potassium Sorbate, Methylparaben, Tetrasodium EDTA, Citric Acid, Polyquaterium 11, FD&C Yellow #5 & #6, FD&C Blue #1, Fragrance

Conditioner: Purified water, stearyl alcohol, capric trigylceride, distearyldimonium chloride, steareth-2, Hydroxythylcellulose, PPG-30 Cetyl Ether, Disodium EDTA, Polyquaternium 10, Citric Acid, Sodium Hydroxide, Silk Powder, Potassium Chloride, Benzophenone-4, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, DMDM Hydantoin, Fragrance

It says on an insert inside the box:

Shampoo away external barriers such as hair spray, styling and finishing products, and everyday buildup to expose the inner hair

Purify by penetrating the hairshaft's inner structure to release, dissolve, and remove the chemicals and medications bonded within the hair. Leaves your hair pure and clean, free of all unwanted contaminants and impurities

Condition hair to control tangles, add sheen, and improve manageability.

To be used only on th day you wish your hair to be clean and free of impurities.

I feel that this last statement completely contradicts what it says this product does. It obviously doesn't rid the impurities, but helps to either cover them... or reduce them in some way.

It's worth a shot, and if you fail your test, they offer a money back guarantee

04-26-2008, 06:29 PM	#12
dirtdevil New Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 33 Grams: 466.45 Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	here is why Dilution Dilution refers to diluting the metabolites in your system. Dilution does NOT remove the drug metabolites from your system, but simply reduces the drug metabolites in your urine sample to a level, which may allow for a negative result. For drugs such as THC, which are fat-soluble, are impossible to get rid of with any other method than exercise. Fat cells secrete fat with drug metabolites at a constant rate, regardless of what herbs you consume. You may be able to temporarily clean drug metabolites from your bloodstream, or dilute your fluids to yield a larger urine/drug ratio, but your bloodstream will continue collecting drug metabolites from fat. Your urine will continue collecting drug metabolites from your bloodstream. Drug Testing 101.com - Passing Your Drug Test - Dilution

07-01-2008, 04:19 PM	#13
ismokeallthetime New Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 28 Grams: 352.45 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 10 Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Just a FYI, I just purchased the Zydot Ultra Clean directly from Zydot and the ingredients are exactually the same as in the first post and in the same order. Last edited by ismokeallthetime : 07-01-2008 at 04:20 PM. Reason: I Can't spell

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dirtdevil New Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 33 Grams: 466.45 Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Everyone reading this needs to go to my posts, dirtdevil posts moved here. It adress the everything in here, though it may not give you answers. I guess the reason they say to use it the day of the test is that it can still be deposited in your hair if your body is still dirty. Now, jerry strongly disagrees w/me on this, and I know he knows alot, i just think on this one there should at least be some more consideration. I posed the question to two labs who do hair testing, should I wait 90 days after quiting smoking or 90 days after my body was clean (when i could pass a piss test). They both said 90 days after my body was clean (check my post to see it exactly). IF this is true, then you could purge your hair of the toxins with the shampoo, but if you wait very long new toxins from the blood will be deposited in the hair unless your body is totally clean of THC. Mac also says to do his method THE DAY OF the test. Zydot says the same thing. The marketing is starting to add up, and besides, if we cant trust it at all then why buy any of it, its all marketing and again, if you could use it 1 week before the test and still pass, then why wouldnt they just say that? It makes no sense, it would actually make the product more appealing because you could use it and forget it. Granted, if JG is right, it could be on there for those people who smoked recently and still have it floating in their blood, or the contaminated hair on their head hasnt risin above the scalp yet, but I have my doubts now as many sources tell a diff story. Blood flows through fat, maybe if you have a high enough contamination, the metabs in your blood stay in their longer breaking down your deposits. Plus, when they check urine, dont they check for the mtabs in urine too? If so, then i had the metabs in my urine for two months, thats how long i pissed dirty, and wouldnt they therefore be in my blood too? How do they get from fat cells back to the kidney and ultimately the bladder if not by the blood stream? Im not sure on that, but it seems to make sense. Also, go to my posts and lets see what everyone thinks about propylene glycol verses glyrol. The ingredients have changed, though sec seems to think this could possibly be a typo on my box, which is very possible, but even if thats the case the order its listed in has also changed, meaning the amount your getting has been lowered, either way this list is invalid now.

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08-21-2008, 07:46 PM	#14
ADistantShadow New Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 16 Grams: 146.55 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Just purchased a box of zydot ultra clean from my local head-shop. First off, the guy working there told me that zydot has a good reputation as far as their detox drinks are concerned, and he's heard great things about the shampoo. He recommended it to me, and then said that be aware that you have a 12 hour time window. I will use it the morning of my test, but I have also taken previous measures such as the Mac method and using Ion washes. This box is from Lot# 907, Best By: 9/09 Ingredients Shampoo: Purified water, sodium lareth sulfate, stearalkonium chloride, aloe vera gel, glyceryl stearate, cocamidopropyl betaine, glyceryl cocoate, sodium PCA, Tetrasodium EDTA, Panthenol, Citric Acid, Methylparaben, DMDM Hydantoin, FD&C Yellow #5 & #6, FD&C Blue #1, Fragrance Purifier: Purified water, stearalkonium chloride, aloe vera gel, propylene glycol, EDTA, Potassium Sorbate, Methylparaben, Tetrasodium EDTA, Citric Acid, Polyquaterium 11, FD&C Yellow #5 & #6, FD&C Blue #1, Fragrance Conditioner: Purified water, stearyl alcohol, capric trigylceride, distearyldimonium chloride, steareth-2, Hydroxythylcellulose, PPG-30 Cetyl Ether, Disodium EDTA, Polyquaternium 10, Citric Acid, Sodium Hydroxide, Silk Powder, Potassium Chloride, Benzophenone-4, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, DMDM Hydantoin, Fragrance It says on an insert inside the box: Shampoo away external barriers such as hair spray, styling and finishing products, and everyday buildup to expose the inner hair Purify by penetrating the hairshaft's inner structure to release, dissolve, and remove the chemicals and medications bonded within the hair. Leaves your hair pure and clean, free of all unwanted contaminants and impurities Condition hair to control tangles, add sheen, and improve manageability. To be used only on th day you wish your hair to be clean and free of impurities. I feel that this last statement completely contradicts what it says this product does. It obviously doesn't rid the impurities, but helps to either cover them... or reduce them in some way. It's worth a shot, and if you fail your test, they offer a money back guarantee

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