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Old 04-16-2008, 10:44 PM   #1
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Default Do employers give more time for drug test prep?

With urine testing you often have to submit a drug test within 48 hours of the offer or sometimes immediately the same day. Does this happen with hair testing?

Do you think its possible to treat your hair enough times within 48 hours to pass (if you are a heavy user).
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:10 PM   #2
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Why can't you stop smoking long enough to treat and pass?

Do you really need to take it right to the edge?
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:39 PM   #3
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Why can't you stop smoking long enough to treat and pass?

Do you really need to take it right to the edge?
Jerry G, you are a great guy helping people the most, but you do this - Fundamental attribution error - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia all the dang time.

To make it short, Fundamental Attribution Error is a tendency to blame people for their problems rather than situations but blame situations rather than yourself if you have a problem (you do the first, not sure about the second).

Here is my answer is you are really that curious:
Ambiguity and uncertainty of the future as well as importance of getting a job.

In time period of super high lay offs, economic recession, and little opportunity (as a college junior who does not need a job to survive and already have one that suffices for the moment) I still managed to be one of the 3 people (out of 84) who was hired. The interview and hiring process was so long (over a month..phone interview, 1 person interview, and then almost entire damn facility 5 hour interview) and chances were so little. Documentation about the drug test was given to me yesterday. Until then I had no idea (that company is not in any drug testing database). I still have no idea if its urine or hair, and I do not want it to be too late to treat if it is hair.

You'd appreciated much more (even though you are not anyway) if you'd either help/answer people (even stupid repetitive pests like me) or just not answer at all.
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Old 04-17-2008, 12:02 AM   #4
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With urine testing you often have to submit a drug test within 48 hours of the offer or sometimes immediately the same day. Does this happen with hair testing?
all depends on the employer.
The last job I took a UA for required me to take the UA immediately after I signed all the paperwork.
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Old 04-17-2008, 12:05 AM   #5
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all depends on the employer.
The last job I took a UA for required me to take the UA immediately after I signed all the paperwork.
I know of such cases but I never heard of such cases for a hair test, and thats why I am asking.
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Old 04-17-2008, 04:26 AM   #6
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With urine testing you often have to submit a drug test within 48 hours of the offer or sometimes immediately the same day. Does this happen with hair testing?
For my last job, I actually got to set my own date.
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Old 04-17-2008, 04:29 AM   #7
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Since when is this a bad thing? People should take responsibility for their actions.

Anyway, I sympathize and know that it is a pain to get sprung with a test at the last minute. If you have a hair test, I don't know. But if you have a piss test, just substitute. You probably won't be observed.
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Old 04-17-2008, 11:57 AM   #8
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Since when is this a bad thing? People should take responsibility for their actions.

Anyway, I sympathize and know that it is a pain to get sprung with a test at the last minute. If you have a hair test, I don't know. But if you have a piss test, just substitute. You probably won't be observed.

Its a bad thing because situational problems are for more common and often the person has little power over the situation. Yet, when it comes down to our personal problems, we tend to blame the situation.
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Its a bad thing because situational problems are for more common and often the person has little power over the situation. Yet, when it comes down to our personal problems, we tend to blame the situation.
I gotta disagree with you. I think people have a *lot* more power over their situations than they're willing to take credit for, and in most cases situation is a copout to avoid resolution of some underlying issue.

Of course most people blame the situation in the heat of the moment (it's human nature to displace blame) and the world often works against you to make things harder. I've blamed situations before just like everyone else.

But the bottom line is, if you didn't smoke pot, you wouldn't be stressing over what for regular people is just a routine part of the job application process. Having to freak over standardized urinanalysis is a consequence of that decision to use an illegal substance recreationally, *not* your situation.

I'm not judging you, because I smoke pot too and *just* went through that preemployment bullshit. It's just something to think about.
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I gotta disagree with you. I think people have a *lot* more power over their situations than they're willing to take credit for, and in most cases situation is a copout to avoid resolution of some underlying issue.

Of course most people blame the situation in the heat of the moment (it's human nature to displace blame) and the world often works against you to make things harder. I've blamed situations before just like everyone else.

But the bottom line is, if you didn't smoke pot, you wouldn't be stressing over what for regular people is just a routine part of the job application process. Having to freak over standardized urinanalysis is a consequence of that decision to use an illegal substance recreationally, *not* your situation.

I'm not judging you, because I smoke pot too and *just* went through that preemployment bullshit. It's just something to think about.
I agree, smoking pot is a choice, not a "situation".

I am not judging Monarch for smoking pot either, I was a 30 year chronic.

I do think he is making very immature decisions by pushing his use to the last possible moment.

He's been stressing about this stuff for months. Had he just quit smoking he would not be stressing(or driving us crazy) right now.
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