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HappyMan · 10-25-2001, 12:40 AM

I think as a writer is is too techinical and has little depth. However I do enjoy his books.

Niteshift · 10-25-2001, 04:17 AM

Yeah, he can be pretty technical but little depth? Come on... his character developement is among the best.

HappyMan · 10-25-2001, 04:22 AM

yes, true, but it isn't a broad charecterization. It is clearly written by a man who enjoys the the details of life. If doesn't have much ability to communicate abstract emotions or relationships. He is gifted at describing people lives but limited in giving them a rounded personality. I read his books for the action, technology and politcs, not for a charecter study.

10-25-2001, 11:46 PM

Yeah, one of the first things I thought of on the day of the attack was that Tom Clancy (and many other people, of course) warned us how vulnerable we are. Sure, it wasn't a nuclear attack ("Sum of All Fears", which I think I read in August), but the fact remains that we were woefully unprepared despite the warnings of many intelligent people.

daniel - Actually, the Jack Ryan series starts with "Hunt for Red October", then "Patriot Games" - which was actually Clancy's third book. His second - "Red Storm Rising" - is probably my favorite.

Daniel · 10-26-2001, 12:21 AM

daniel - Actually, the Jack Ryan series starts with "Hunt for Red October", then "Patriot Games" - which was actually Clancy's third book. His second - "Red Storm Rising" - is probably my favorite.

I stand corrected.

Jack Ryan was introduced to us in The Hunt for Red October. Chronologically, he was introduced to us in "Without Remorse" as a young man about to join the Marine Corps.

Red Storm Rising is actually my favorite also. "Without Remorse" is my favorite that hang along the Jack Ryan books.

Daniel

HappyMan · 10-26-2001, 03:21 AM

How could we prepare for a terrorist nuclear attack? The only preperation would be stopping the weapon from entering the country.

10-26-2001, 03:45 AM

We prepare for each and every day to be our last. We do all that we might to be good and decent people and help those in need. We love our children like there may not be a tomorrow.

Other than that, and we have already lost.

Smiles,'
BD

Niteshift · 10-26-2001, 07:00 AM

Just as an FYI.......... Red October came out in print first, but Patriot Games takes place prior to Red October in the timeline. Without Remorse is first in the timeline, then Patriot Games, then Red October.

My least favorite turns out to be many peoples most favorite, Cardinal of the Kremlin.

I think I'd have to say Rainbow 6 was my favorite. (I don't dare say Clear and Present Danger on here

)

HappyMan · 10-26-2001, 02:07 PM

I didn't realy like Cardinal of the Kremlin either, but it is better then those ops-center books.

Daniel · 10-26-2001, 02:19 PM

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My least favorite turns out to be many peoples most favorite, Cardinal of the Kremlin.

My least favorite also. You have to admit though, the sence deprivation tank used to extract a confession was an interesting concept.

10-25-2001, 12:40 AM	#11
HappyMan Jr. Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,224 Grams: 1,689.72 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	I think as a writer is is too techinical and has little depth. However I do enjoy his books. __________________ Bla. and Marijuana.Com Community Posting Guidelines

10-25-2001, 04:17 AM	#12
Niteshift L.E.O. in Good Standing Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 6,432 Grams: 2,617.02 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Yeah, he can be pretty technical but little depth? Come on... his character developement is among the best. __________________ A burning desire for social justice is never a substitute for knowing what you're talking about. -Thomas Sowell Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is muzzle flash.

10-26-2001, 03:45 AM	#17
ButterflyDreams Posts: n/a Grams: 0 [Check] Stock Portfolio Total Value: Gain/Loss: %	That's easy Happy... We prepare for each and every day to be our last. We do all that we might to be good and decent people and help those in need. We love our children like there may not be a tomorrow. Other than that, and we have already lost. Smiles,' BD

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10-25-2001, 04:22 AM	#13
HappyMan Jr. Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,224 Grams: 1,689.72 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	yes, true, but it isn't a broad charecterization. It is clearly written by a man who enjoys the the details of life. If doesn't have much ability to communicate abstract emotions or relationships. He is gifted at describing people lives but limited in giving them a rounded personality. I read his books for the action, technology and politcs, not for a charecter study.

10-25-2001, 11:46 PM	#14
Nasarius Posts: n/a Grams: 0 [Check] Stock Portfolio Total Value: Gain/Loss: %	Yeah, one of the first things I thought of on the day of the attack was that Tom Clancy (and many other people, of course) warned us how vulnerable we are. Sure, it wasn't a nuclear attack ("Sum of All Fears", which I think I read in August), but the fact remains that we were woefully unprepared despite the warnings of many intelligent people. daniel - Actually, the Jack Ryan series starts with "Hunt for Red October", then "Patriot Games" - which was actually Clancy's third book. His second - "Red Storm Rising" - is probably my favorite.

10-26-2001, 12:21 AM	#15
Daniel Seasoned Activist Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 858 Grams: 2,745.25 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	daniel - Actually, the Jack Ryan series starts with "Hunt for Red October", then "Patriot Games" - which was actually Clancy's third book. His second - "Red Storm Rising" - is probably my favorite. I stand corrected. Jack Ryan was introduced to us in The Hunt for Red October. Chronologically, he was introduced to us in "Without Remorse" as a young man about to join the Marine Corps. Red Storm Rising is actually my favorite also. "Without Remorse" is my favorite that hang along the Jack Ryan books. Daniel

10-26-2001, 03:21 AM	#16
HappyMan Jr. Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,224 Grams: 1,689.72 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	How could we prepare for a terrorist nuclear attack? The only preperation would be stopping the weapon from entering the country.

10-26-2001, 07:00 AM	#18
Niteshift L.E.O. in Good Standing Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 6,432 Grams: 2,617.02 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	Just as an FYI.......... Red October came out in print first, but Patriot Games takes place prior to Red October in the timeline. Without Remorse is first in the timeline, then Patriot Games, then Red October. My least favorite turns out to be many peoples most favorite, Cardinal of the Kremlin. I think I'd have to say Rainbow 6 was my favorite. (I don't dare say Clear and Present Danger on here )

10-26-2001, 02:07 PM	#19
HappyMan Jr. Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,224 Grams: 1,689.72 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	I didn't realy like Cardinal of the Kremlin either, but it is better then those ops-center books.

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