OK well..........normally I smoke blunts, out of a bong, occassional pipe...but I picked me up a pack of Joker Rolling Papers the other day and let me just say I think they suck dong man. Inside the pack it says: "Joker cigarette rolling papers are made from the finest quality, natural French Paper. We package Joker in our own European factories to give you a consistently great, even burning cigarette rolling paper. Joker paper combines the right thickness and correct burning characteristics to give you the ideal paper performance for the size you want. Joker is guaranteed to burn slowly, evenly, and to be exceptionally strong." WTF I say!! I admit they do burn even but my joints usually do anyway, the right thickness my arse you can see thru the joint you just rolled. Exceptionally strong they say? Um I noticethe paper tears every time I roll one and have to double wrap it NEVER happens with ZigZags btw......and the joint unrolls itself as it gets hot when you smoke it because of how crappy the glue quality on them is. I just wanted to say they are now the worst rolling paper I have ever used next to "Risla" (however you spell it). Damn French papers.