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PhreshwaterPhunk

A friend of mine and I were chatting the other day, and together formed a theory about god, If he actually existed. We started out assuming that when we die there is nothing. That when we die, we are dead. But that doesn't mean that there isn't a God.

God strikes a match, we are that match. He creates it, he controls it, it's his fire. He can put it out, and when he puts it out, the flame does not go to heaven, it is simply extinguished.

Us, in relation to God, in my opinion, is as follows. We are the trees, and God is the human. We are not complex enough to understand God, or even realize he is there. God can create us, by planting us. And he can destroy us. Some think that they can comprehend God, but it is simply impossible. Trees are so far behind Humans, that it is simply incomprehensible to even think up something that actually moves on legs. We can't imagine anything that we don't relate to, so we cannot even fathom what God is.

But, we rely on trees. They provide us with oxygen. They give us what we need. And in return, we provide them with carbon monoxide, what they need to survive. Of course, the trees are not consciously aware that we rely on them for survival. And if they did, what do you think they would do?

I think that we are God’s pawn in his game of chess. And in order for God to achieve his “checkmate”, whatever that may be, he must sacrifice us. He must use us as a distraction. Of course, we don’t realize this, so we go with it. We pray to God, and obey his every command, but is it possible that God actually doesn’t give a ****? Is it possible that God is just keeping us alive for his own good until he can think up something better? What happens when we find a new way to survive other than oxygen?

What would happen if we, the pawn, realized what we were. What if we realized that we were just being used, and then backstabbed after all that prayer and dedication we gave to God? What if when God moved the pawn forward, it didn’t move forward? Is it possible for us to control HIS moves, and somehow lock the chess game in stalemate? Meaning, we achieve eternal life and God no longer has control over us. If that’s possible, is it possible to hop off the chess board? To become more than just a pawn? To become more than just human?

Of course, the chess board idea is simply put. There is no way we can possibly imagine what God is using us for, because he is so much more complex than we are. The same way that a tree cannot possibly fathom blood flow, auditable speech, and actually moving from one place to another. But you can never help thinking, “What if we could rebel on God, and achieve more than just life itself?”

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Ernesto

if you feel this way about god, why then, do you give it a gender?
I may or may not believe in god, but I certainly don't believe god has a gender, i call god "it" not him.

IF god exists...it isnt a "he"

PhreshwaterPhunk

Is this really the only comment you have about that entire thing? I refer to God as a He, simply because I am a He and it is easier to relate that way. By no means am I telling everyone that "it" is a he, it's just how I refer to "him" because it is easier for me.

Ernesto

yeah, it is.

your explanation is as pedestrian as your original post.

jebus

That was actually pretty intereting, phresh. And i refer to god as a HE and so do mostly anyone ive ever heard talk about god. All the pictures you see are of a big hairy man. And if he is an "it" why would people call him father? and why wouldnt he have been the one to give birth to jesus (i think?).

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PhreshwaterPhunk

Wtf? I refuse to waste my time, because my explanation doesn't have to prove anything, and nor does my origional post. I posted it to see what others thought about it, and you apparently do not care for it simply because I refer to God as a He. You don't need to repeatedly put it down, once will do. And me refering to God as a He has nothing to do with the theory, it's just my opinion, and it's so completly abstract that it makes no difference at all.

Kenobi

Interesting , Its messed up I dunno if it were ever to be possible to do that jump out of the chess game ,If god =Unlimited power ,that id think god would sense it even before you were born ,God created us .If their is a God I dunno .Its weird

SO do you absouletly think their is an almighty powerfull "being"
or force .
Images of god were created by the humans Big hairy man surrounded by god <thats how the human sees it ,it cannot like you said imagine anything else more power than a human .
Weird

PS : Do you think well ever find out ?

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jebus

I dont know if i beleive in a god because if there was then why would there be wars and crime? and you cant say it is to destroy evil people because if there was a god there wouldnt be any bad people would there? There would be no food shortages in 3rd world countries or diseases etc.... Thats y i find it hard to beleive in god.

Foxx

Interesting idea Phresh but here is a few problems I have with it.

The definition of God is a supreme omnipitent being. Being perfect he/she/it/whatever would not need anything to survive. God could exist even if nothing else did. Also being supreme he/she/it/whatever would not not need chess pieces to do its bidding it sould do anything it desired with a snap of the fingers.

Another problem is that a chess player must interact with and control the chess pieces. This would mean that humans have absolutly no free will of their own. I think its hard to believe we do not have a free will.

What you describe sounds similar to he stories of the greek and roman gods. They meddled in humans lives for their own enjoyment or to get back at other gods.

btw - if you believe in christanity god is a he because he created adam in his image. I dont know enough about other religions to comment tho.
and jebus the god in this scenario is definatly not a kind and understanding god so i dont think he would care about those problems.

PhreshwaterPhunk

Who says God has unlimited power? Say that fire is our society, our race of men. They would believe that we are God, because we create it and control it, to an extent. God doesn't HAVE to have unlimited power. We take a match, and strike it, we created fire. Therefore we are God to that fire. But the fire can spread, and take us out. Burn us out. There is no proof that God is all knowing and all doing. Yes, many religions say that he is all everything, but I don't think so.