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pixelpusher6

On the way back home I had a pretty good idea for a recipe yet i'm not sure if it will work as good as butter/chocolate, other stuff, etc. The basis of this idea is that THC is fat soluble, so naturally one would think the best way to extract the THC is through having as high fat content as possible. I am going to reference to this site that has fat contents of many foods.

http://www.ntwrks.com/~mikev/chart1.html

As you can see some of the things we have been using for recipes for example I saw a pot chocolate recipe (like hot chocolate) that uses 2% milk. The calorie chart says that whole milk has a total fat of 8grams and divide that by its total weight in grams (244) you get ~3.2% fat content - not very high. Butter salted is much higher - 1 tbsp. has 11grams of fat / 14 grams total weight = ~79% fat content.

Now of surprise i noticed Corn Oil, which has 218 grams of fat / 218 of total weight = 100% fat (gross to think about) which would be great for extraction THC. Now my question is in relation to saturated fat, and does it affect the extraction of the THC and to what degree. The corn oil had about 13% saturated fat, while the butter salted had ~51%. Can someone please answer what the role of saturated fat is in THC extraction? is more better or less? If more saturated fat is better than ideally the perfect thing to use to extract THC would have the highest saturated fat content.

Thanks

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BloodNOil

If you want better "extraction" go with a nice nonpolar solvent like
acetone or butane, or hexane if you can find it. If all you want is
pot hot chocolate, it doesn't really matter. You're going to be
eating the pot anyway.

edit: of course there can be no "perfect" extraction because no
matter how hard you try, there will still be a miniscule amount of
THC left in your marijuana.

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teufelfisch

I don't think anyone here has tried comparing the differences in sat. versus unsat. fat. You could be the first to try for us, though!

Use the same amount of the same weed-- cook some in corn oil (unsaturated fats), and cook some in lard (saturated fats). Then it's a simple matter of cooking the fat with a recipe and seeing which is more potent.

Often, you don't really need an extremely high fat concentration to extract enough THC, unless you were planning on making something really really *extremely* potent. The butter, although not 100% fat, will still have enough fat content to make those brownies (or whatever) as potent as you like, if you use enough weed.

If you used whole milk instead of 2% for the chocolate, you could extract more.

Personally I would go with more unsaturated fats-- they're healthier. Except, of course, for those artificial trans-sat foods, but those should be avoided anyways.

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pixelpusher6

After reading a little I found that butter and coconut oil seem to have the highest saturated fat content. What i'm wondering is does it matter if saturated fat is high. Although unhealthy, my theory is that a food with higher saturated fat would be better for dank weed, because the more THC, the more sites it has to bind to. Using schwag i won't see a difference between milk and butter, but i'm sure there would be with dank.

Mamabudz

Only difference would be taste ...in my book.

Saturated fats tend to be richer tasting...butter, schmaltz (chicken fat), coconut oil.

I use olive oil when I want to go for richness without using animal fats...such as for a salad dressing or a dip.

just my opinion though

 

Arsenal

Hmm. Most oils are 100% fat. Oil is basically meant to be liquid fat. Yum!

From a health perspective, unsaturated fats are better for you (and indeed, necessary in your diet!) But as Mamabudz has pointed out, unhealth is delicious.

In any case.. from a chemistry point of view, it would seem to me that saturated fats would extract THC better. If nonpolar solvents such as acetone and hexane are ideal for extracting THC, then unsaturated fats, which very much have a tendency to be polar (due to the presence of double bonds in their structures,) are likely not as suitable.

This would make sense as my attempts with Olive Oil have been somewhat less successful than those with butter.

On the other hand, all fat molecules, saturated or not, are very large structures. This means large tendencies to cause momentary distortions of polarity (aka Van der Waals forces.) This essentially makes them polar substances, so I'm not sure where the idea that only non-polar.. hey wait a second.

Acetone IS polar!



Back to the drawing board. In my opinion this is a very difficult topic to tackle and I believe that quite a bit more chemical knowledge must be applied before a true verdict can be reached, however please do experiment.

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BloodNOil

water is polar.

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acetone acts as both polar and nonpolar.

tech213

Acetone is polar. Polar molecules have positive and negative places. The double bonded oxygen has 2 lone pairs of electrons attached to it giving it a partial negative charge, making the middle carbon partially positive. Acetone does not act as a nonpolar molecule.

tetsujin

I would tend to think that unsaturated fats might be better because they have all those spaces unfilled where hydrogen atoms would go in a saturated fat. Since the molecules are ready to grab on to other things to fill those spaces (which is why unsaturated fats tend to go rancid faster) I'd expect them to be more likely to grab on to the THC.

Does that make sense, or am I missing something here?

Mamabudz

That made more sense than anything I've read on these boards in the past 6 months!

Let's hear it for Olive Oil !!!