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jdog12

from searching here and all over the internet, here is what i understand

1. You do not have to cook it to "activate" it
2. if you do cook and "activate" it is much more efficient
3. Microwaves?

there is a question mark because for every post/site that says microwaving works, there is another one that says it doesnt. would a microwave be good enough to cook and so called "activate" the thc, if covered in butter, cheese, peanut butter, oil, etc? if so... about how long would you need to keep it in there? and about how hot does a microwave get? the weed needs to be at 180degrees to bind to fat cells, is this right?

i was thinking, butter, cheese, weed, all wrapped up in some bread, and nuke it for maybe 30ish seconds....

 

Higher Logic

1. True, you do not need to activate the THC. You can eat cannabis raw.
2. However, by binding the THC to a fat, like oil or butter, you are getting more bang for your buck and have less chance for the THC to vaporize off into the air.
3. You can microwave it, as long as there's a fat in there.

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Microwaving the stuff may have unwanted effects on the THC. One of my professors is studying chemical reactions in the microwave. They tend to proceed much faster and with a much higher yield than reactions outside the microwave. By nuking it, you may be turning the THC into something else.

However, microwaving it *does* work. If you have oil/butter/etc around the bud, it will absorb some THC. But because you are not stirring the buds and getting all that butter to surround the plant material, it is probably not nearly as efficient as cooking it on the stove with constant stirring.

There is absolutely no chemical difference between THC that has been heated and "activated" and THC that has not. Heating it doesn't do a damn thing, except extract the THC into whatever fat/oil/lipid/nonpolar substance you happen to be using. There is no such thing as activated THC.

Your body absorbs the THC much more efficiently into the blood through the lipid barriers in the lining of your stomach if it is dissolved in a fat/oil/lipid. Heating it only makes the THC release from the plant material and into the butter.

Higher Logic, you are mostly dead on. However, the THC will not vaporize into thin air if it is not dissolved in a lipid-- if it was this volatile, we would have a hard time keeping it in the buds! The lipid only serves as an absorption mechanism in the body.

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jdog12

ok..i coated both slices of bread with "i cant believe its not butter light"(it was all i had) put cheese on it(mexican blend, very fattening, cheddar is one of them) and even put a lil bit of olive oil... put my ground up buds(it was good stuff) on top.. then put a drop of oil on top, more cheese, and second slice..... i put about enoough to roll a half joint, but it was pretty good stuff. now i gagged while eating this, it was disgusting, i almost threw up... and nothing.... it did not work. im more disapointed that i had to eat it than the actual fact that it did not work.. this concoction tasted nasty.

Cassius

You have to use more weed when you cook than when you smoke to get the same high, from what I've been able to determine.

Half a joint might get one person high if smoking it, but I'm not surprised it wasn't enough in a toasted cheese sandwich cooked in the microwave.

When I cook, I usually point in one joint's worth for each person that's going to be partaking of the meal. Of course, I always cook over a stove (when I'm cooking weed anyway) -- I've never used a microwave so I don't know (from firsthand experience anyway) if that would affect it, but I'm guessing it would have SOME kind of effect (and I doubt it'd be positive compared to cooking over a stove).

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solutions

All I can say is that I've learned from experience that freshly harvested weed when "fast dried" in a microwave or oven tastes like crap when you smoke it.

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Zilos

I personally wouldn't use a microwave, stove would be best, thats for sure. Just thought of something, anybody every try cooking weed in a slowcooker??

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The George Foreman Grill anyone?

Medicinaluse

I used to cook a lot in a crock-pot. The crock-pot seems to work quite well, although I have no idea, from a scientific perspective why. It seems to be the perfect temperature for making butter. But a double boiler works well, too. No comment on the microwave thing. But, as with everything in life, the proverbial 'quick fix' is usually a dissapointment when compared to the real thing. JMHO

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sdragon1984

ok, i dont know if nuking it is good or not, though from teufelfisch's post, id guess that even if it does, its not the best way to try to "activate the thc"

but...................

since thc is soluble in fats and oils (and alchohol, if you want some off topic fun), technically you dont need to heat up the butter any more then youd have to heat up water to make kool-aid. since butter is a solid, though, melting it will make the butter absorb the thc better.

also, no thc doesnt need to be heated, in fact, if you heat it up too much, it will boil off the leaves. ALTHOUGH, the concept of heat-activating isnt entirely false. there is a non-psychoactive substance in weed called thc acid. when this is heated up enough (i dunno the exact heat, but i know its under 200*f, where as the temp where thc will boil off is closer to 400*f), it will change into thc, thus making the weed more potent. ive read that this is a very tricky thing to do, tho, as you dont want it to happen too fast( dont ask why, i dont even know for sure if this much is true, but i wouldnt want to risk it), and the higher the temp, the faster it will happen. since teufelfisch said that nuking seems to make chemical reaction happen faster, and i dont know what temp microwaves reach, i wouldnt use the microwave.

hope this clears some thing up, that way we can get to posts that are more on the topic of nuking.

btw, wherd this smiley come from? is it automatically in the mini list over here? im so used to the 420 lounge..............