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Old 09-06-2008, 11:23 PM   #21
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I catch Barack in lies, and I don't like being lied to.
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Old 09-07-2008, 04:06 PM   #22
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so shib is harry reasons still not enough, or do you like Obama so much you refuse to listen? i pose this question cause it seems, i mean you have downed just about everypost that was anti obama on this thread.

you asked and here are your words

"It can be:

-Personal reasons
-Policy reasons
-spiritual reasons
-any reason

The *only* rule in this thread I want to enforce is that you supply a reference or a citation with your reasoning."

If you don't like the answers you get don't ask in the first place.
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This is from an article on Yahoo news...

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Obama disclosed that he had once considered serving in the military.
“You know, I actually did,” Obama said. “I had to sign up for Selective Service when I graduated from high school. And I was growing up in Hawaii. And I have friends whose parents were in the military. There are a lot of Army, military bases there.
“And I actually always thought of the military as an ennobling and, you know, honorable option. But keep in mind that I graduated in 1979. The Vietnam War had come to an end. We weren't engaged in an active military conflict at that point. And so, it's not an option that I ever decided to pursue.”
He doesn't understand the total purpose of the military. It isn't just to fight wars but to act as a deterrent as well.

the link......Obama considered joining military, regrets abortion answer - Yahoo! News
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Old 09-07-2008, 08:56 PM   #24
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so shib is harry reasons still not enough, or do you like Obama so much you refuse to listen? i pose this question cause it seems, i mean you have downed just about everypost that was anti obama on this thread.

you asked and here are your words

"It can be:

-Personal reasons
-Policy reasons
-spiritual reasons
-any reason

The *only* rule in this thread I want to enforce is that you supply a reference or a citation with your reasoning."

If you don't like the answers you get don't ask in the first place.

I'm looking for reasons that can be respectfully used in an argument. Ones free of fallacies and tongue-in-cheek accusations.

Harry's post was good, not perfect, but good. And I thanked him for it.

I'm not sure what you mean... but I haven't groaned at any posts in this thread so far (i just checked).

The ones I didn't like didn't really follow the rules... and maybe it's my fault for not explaining the rules better, and I'll edit them if you think I should...

But if your reasoning can not be backed up by a citation or a reference because it is purely opinionated, then all I was asking was for you to make sure the reason could not equally be applied to McCain.

Now, this was before Buzzby posted in the other thread which made me realize I was thinking of these threads as a McCain vs Obama thing, when in reality, there are other candidates... so one shouldn't have to argue for their candidate, only against the one in the thread (in this case Obama).

Still, though, aside from a few posts... most of the "arguments" in this thread have been pretty weak.

Maybe it is selfish of me, but a part of this thread was to see if I had "missed" anything in regards to Obama so I would be better prepared when I ran into an obama-fanatic at school (I attend a very liberal school).

Anyways... to answer your question... no, harry's is not enough... and if that is--in your opinion--all that is wrong with obama, and it all fits into that single post that Harry posted... then he must not be such a bad guy. I would think/hope that there was much more to be said.
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Here is a good reason...


YouTube - Is Obama Wright? - Pastor Jeremiah...


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YouTube - Is Obama Wright? - Pastor Jeremiah Wright & Senator Barack

Pastor Wright... yea, he's almost as bad as the pastor McCain sought a recommendation from who declared that Hitler was doing God's work by getting rid of the jews.

Or even Sarah Palin's pastor who not only claimed that god would indeed damn america, but he would force his hand on america for going astray.

Can the bullshit, Marvin. I got all night to counter it.
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Pastor Wright... yea, he's almost as bad as the pastor McCain sought a recommendation from who declared that Hitler was doing God's work by getting rid of the jews.

Or even Sarah Palin's pastor who not only claimed that god would indeed damn america, but he would force his hand on america for going astray.

Can the bullshit, Marvin. I got all night to counter it.
The title of this thread is "Explain to me why Obama the Black Messiah is Bad/Evil/ not a good choice. People have given you their explanations...take them or leave them....I don't care.

YouTube - Obama Gaffes on Faith

BTW...what is BO, a muslim or christian?
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The title of this thread is "Explain to me why Obama the Black Messiah is Bad/Evil/ not a good choice. People have given you their explanations...take them or leave them....I don't care.
Yes, and I made it clear in the first post to make sure you post concrete stuff, not garbage. If you can't stick to that request, avoid my thread or start a new one called "Marvin's Thread of Myths and Fallacies". I'll be sure to pay you the same respect and avoid it.


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BTW...what is BO, a muslim or christian?
Let's see... he has been a christian for years, attending a christian church, and calling himself a christian.

If you can't follow that line of logic, then there's not much else I can say.

If you think a single slip of the tongue can contridict one's life, then wow... I wonder why you don't apply the same logic to all of McCain's slip of the tongues, or even Bush's many, many slip of the tongues (some feeding the fire to the many 9/11 conspiracy theorists that I'm sure you have feelings about).
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I am not going to reply to such nonsense. At least when I speak about McCain, I use logic, commonsense and actual evidence. Not semi racist opinions.
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he's almost as bad as the pastor McCain sought a recommendation from who declared that Hitler was doing God's work by getting rid of the jews.
Can you post that video please?
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