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Old 09-13-2008, 09:53 PM   #1
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Don't Buy the Lie. A kid at my school comments on B.Obama.
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September 13, 2008


Those who sacrifice liberty for the sake comfort or security, they deserve neither.

Many people would argue that Senator Obama is great for this country because he brings to us his vision of hope and revival for the nation.

I would like to argue otherwise, on the grounds that he is a fraud and a phony; one that does not promise hope and revival, but instead peddles hopelessness in hopes of making you helpless. His purpose in trying to convince you of this is with the goal of having you lose your self-motivation. The hope he sells is hope that he can persuade enough people surrender their will over to his special government interests.

Yes, Obama is clouded with special interest all over himself. He wants proletariat morality. Not in in exact sense that Marx and Engels held it to be to, but in a very similar sense that now encompasses something much broader. A belief such that he will permit and allow whatever advances the liberal fascist agenda. It is permissible to do anything in the name of post-modernist, secular-humanist, communist belief if it will further promote that. This view of morality killed 100 million in the 20th century, and it continues to kill now. 52 million babies in the United States since the early 70's. But with Obama, it does stop with mistreatment and killing of the unborn. He takes it a step further... to advocating the permissiblilty of killing NEWLY born children. Part of this belief is that restricting that "right" could potentially hinder or create roadblocks in furthering other parts of his agenda.

His buddy Peter Singer advocates the inalienable 'right to choose' to kill children in the first 30 days after their birth. It is a "30 days same as cash" mantra for raising children. Don't like them? They cry to much? Can't find a baby-sitter? Just take them to the dump! He says... Forget the value of human life... we are just animals. And those animals that we kill... gosh we are just promoting the survival and adaptation of our species as we continue to become the "favored race".

You ask, what do you mean "favored race?" Do you think I am being racist? Does Phil think that white people are superior? No, but people like Charles Darwin did. Many people credit Charles Darwin's work in his book "Origin of Species: the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life" for pioneering the belief that white people were a favored race, and that blacks were an entirely different species of humans.

Margret Sanger believe that blacks were the weeds of society that needed to be uprooted. She was a eugenicist in a very Adolph Hitler sense. She wanted whites to rule America. She wanted blacks, who due to Darwin's work thought evolved from a different ancestor and were less fit for survival, to be permanently inferior...or just plain exterminated.

You say, "Us liberals and People on the left are all about equality and civil rights!! How could anyone of our leaders, our political idols, advocate such a thing?? Phil, You are lying!" Let me explain exactly what she was advocating in order to achieve the means to her end. She couldn't just go out and murder blacks on the street. Nobody would allow it. So instead, Sanger fought for "reproductive freedom and rights". Sanger planted abortion clinics is black neighborhoods. Sanger is the founder of Planned Parenthood. She was quite successful too. With 1 in 3 pregnancies ending in abortions, almost 40% of all abortions performed on black women, and 52 million abortions in the United States since the 70's... you might find yourself wondering like I am, how people let this happen, and why people like B.Obama are on board with this philosophy, in promotion of these atrocities! Well those who know history control the future, and when you don't understand the history of ideas and where they started from, then you don't know where you stand. You will fall for anything.

(Side note - that history should not be thought of in terms of simply battles, but in terms of battles over ideas. People go to war over ideas. If you trace back ideas, you can grab a hold of history and understand where and why battles took place. We are at war over ideas in our culture and our country. With the left restricting the free discourse of ideas, the very thing that keeps this country strong and at peace, I predict that we will be headed towards civil war. We are at war for the hearts and minds of people. War was more common on the past because people couldn't talk about ideas. Now we are finding restriction of speech, the inability to talk about ideas, and the attempts to disarm the right through gun control laws. Don't you see what I see? The left isn't pursuing freedom, liberty, or equality. They are "progressing" towards totalitarianism).


B.Obama is on board with this philosophy because it encompasses his worldview and vision for America. It is NOT one for hope and revival. I argue that he speaks of hope in a calculated plan to place us in a self-induced comatose state where we find ourselves in our own false psychological construct of hopelessness, where we think we are worthless.

Why? For the particular reason that if we think we are hopeless, then we will be desperate enough to accept any promise of empowerment and hope. If we think we are helpless, then we no longer have the initiative to resolve things on our own.

B.Obama is anxious not to empower Americans, but to get us all into the position where we think we are downing. His 'motivational speeches' are trying to convince us that we can't swim. Swim? Yes. He creates for us an illusion of drowning so that he can persuade you to believe that our only hope for survival is a the 'government rescue ship' or 'life raft' that he offers to send your way.

I wish people would realize the psychology of what he is doing. He doesn't want hope and revival... he is trying to convince you that your are helpless and hopeless; so that there we can find reason to give him that power. If he can trick us in to thinking that we cannot help ourselves, then there is reason to believe that he can help you.

The problem with all this of course is that he is wrong. We are Americans, and we are the United States of America. We are great, we are innovative, and we get things done on our own. We are not helpless because we know how to solve problems.

Consider that Obama is trying to convince you that you arent fully american, just African-American... and that we are in a state where we can no longer solve our own problems. There is affirmative action, there is diversity, there is profiling, there is ethnicity, there is progressive taxes, there is hate-crimes and not just crimes. There is this, there is that. He wants you to think that everything is someone else's fault. He doesn't want us to take responsibility for our actions, because that would lead to personal empowerment instead of government empowerment.

Why would he do this? Because then he has reason for you to ignore constitutuional principle and founding philosophy in order to spend tax dollars and hire 'professionals' that will control your life, try to solve your problems, tell you what to do, and enforce their [lack of] values upon you.

I tell you now, do not buy the lie. You are not hopeless, you are a citizen of the greatest nation alive. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Especially coming from a man with a record that he has and a worldview like his.

I argued that He advocates policies that will lead to the destruction of a nation. And now you know why. So it is this much that I tell you: Do Not Buy the Lie!

Sources:

Liberal facism (Jonah Goldberg)

On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life (Charles Darwin)

www.Barackobama.com

Planned Parenthood Federation of America, Inc.

www.nrlc.org
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Old 09-13-2008, 10:18 PM   #2
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Is this just the typical republican rhetoric or does anyone think there is legitimacy to some of this?
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This is extreme right wing propaganda. I'm sorry to say that I read the whole thing.

This is a very interesting work of fiction, and it's filled with just enough half truths to appear to hold water. This is, like all conspiracy theories, dependent on one major thing, the suspension of disbelief and critical thought.
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Argh. What a waste in time reading. He forgot to add, "Paid for by the McCain campaign."
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Thank you both. I'm just very annoyed that he is a very outspoken kid who uses self proclaimed "reason" and "morals" to prove his points. I don't even know where to start when having a political discussion with him because he is not open minded to any degree, and everything eventually comes down to some sort of statement such as "We all need Jesus and guns to save us from hell"... : /
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May I also add that this is the way most people think within a Christian group I was in last year (I now consider myself spiritual agnostic and I'm trying to find the best way of breaking the news to them without having them try a gajillion things to save my soul...right now I'm content with avoidance.) and a lot of coworkers within my company... : /
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"We all need Jesus and guns to save us from hell"... : /
In situations like that, I like to use Poe's Law as my favorite friend.

I find that any time you're dealing with a fanatical (or non reasoning person), the best solution is (well, the most fun solution) is simply to take it over the top.

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Philosophy class Euthanasia.
"Suicide is wrong, if you commit suicide God sends you to hell, so it should be illegal."
"Damn right. It's murder, premeditated too! I say we give anyone who tried to kill themselves the chair!"
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Usually people only write "He" (emphasis on capitalization) in reference to God. The irony writes itself, I love it.

More irony for us all...I did some digging. Whatever grain of truth there is to his opposition of the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban, in ontheissues.org his basis for that in a nutshell was that families (the mothers in particular) are fully aware of the moral ramifications and all have to deal with it in their own way. I'm pretty sure that's the complete opposite of the "proletariat, communist"-pointing drek of this entire diatribe.
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So my dilemma right now is making an argument against his points that will be good enough to convince him he's insane...help : )
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I'm sorry but the whole thing is based on assumptions and little factual evidence. I tend to avoid politics nowadays because of all the ignorant things people say. For example, I refused to talk to someone about politics and they claimed that they wanted to because you can find out who's smart and who isn't which I found completely absurd. If you're right wing arguing with a left wing you're going to think the other person is stupid and uninformed when in fact you both could be quite inteligent. Huge waste of time but that concept is lost on some people. I wouldn't bother trying to argue with the kid, he has his stance, you have yours. It's not like person will win or lose the election because of a few changed votes. For someone to write up that article, they have to be passionate about their beliefs, and with the little factual evidence in there that's all it is, someones personal opinion that they believe is the be all and end all of believes so they decided to share it with the world. blah blah blah, just ignore it.

But yeah, that's all based on his assumption of what Obama is planning. No one knows for sure, we see what we see on tv, read what we read in the papers and that's all we can go by. Of course there are all kinds of media outlets but the fact is most are based on things candidates have done or said, not an analysis of what they're secretly planning and thinking.

The worst thing I've heard anyone say though about poltics was don't vote for obama because he's a muslim and we're at war with the muslims. I couldn't even begin to fathom how someones brain to mouth filter couldn't pick up on the ignorance and the stupidity of a the statement at war with the 'muslims'. The sad thing is though, I'm sure it's a sentiment viewed by many.
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