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Plainsman1963

So, how cool is it that the two front runners (at this early stage of the game) for the democratic nominee are a woman and a black man?

Personally, I'm rooting for Barack. Not saying I am going to vote for him, but having him as the democratic nominee would be better in my eyes than having Hillary.

Although, I would like to find more information on his stance on some issues. That is the bad side of being a relative outsider...

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Migz420

that's a very interesting excerpt from the book. Makes me like the guy a little bit.

As of right now I have no idea who I will be voting for. Stem Cell research will be something I take into consideration when choosing a candidate. That's a personal issue for me. I have much self-educating to do on the candidates and their stance on different issues before I make a choice.

It will be interesting to see who wins the democratic nomination.

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t-1000

I'm not sure whether I will be voting Dem or Rep this year, but I'm damn sure not voting for Clinton. Personally I think she's a bitch.

Obama on the other hand seems like a good guy. I'll be watching.

Buzzby

I can see where you'd like Clinton or Obama. If either of them becomes the Democrat's candidate it would give the Republican candidate a chance to win that he otherwise would not have. Obama would probably garner fewer votes than Clinton.

I have no big problem with Obama. I'm not fond of Clinton. From a practical point of view, I don't think America is ready to elect either a woman or a Black.

I find that very disturbing. He apparently accepts the "Gateway Drug" theory that smoking pot leads to becoming a junkie unless you are "saved" from it. That doesn't bode well for drug law reform.

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1tokeovertheline

Wait until GG and sec3 see this.


I find that very disturbing. He apparently accepts the "Gateway Drug" theory that smoking pot leads to becoming a junkie unless you are "saved" from it. That doesn't bode well for drug law reform.[/quote]
Not only that but he is stereotyping his whole race in the process.
Maybe you're right in that other thread. That stereotyping comes up a lot.

 

Buzzby

I don't think America is ready to put a Jew, Muslim, Hindu, or homosexual in the Oval Office, either. This has nothing to do with my personal prejudices. (Golda Meir made a fantastic prime minister. So did Indira Gandhi.) I'm only talking about electability. The best candidate in the world is ineffective if he can't get elected.

sterbo

I believe we must finally understand that we have little time to make a leap of faith. By that I mean that the centuries of living in fear of whats different, making assumptions based on appearances or limited information, unwillingness to really communicate with each other, following the path of least resistance, have achieved nothing more than to exhibit human existence on this earth as tragedy beyond measure.

I understand the concern that we all want to put our support behind someone who 'can get elected'. That's a given. The problem is that we've been there - done that, and we continue down the same old path which of course is what those in power want. I say we have to start down another path. Get rid of the status quo which in this case means putting our weight behind a relative outsider - someone who hasn't yet gotten fat and lazy and corrupt as they all seem to do. And then, really support that person. Not just until they gain office but when the real shit starts to come down and the real decisions have to be made. The one's that are truly painful to us all because we the people have become fat, lazy and corrupt...
So bring on Barack Obama. At least, in this early moment, he is young and bright and full of the fire that brings scalding clarity to that which new beginnings are all about...

Lets finally support what we know in our hearts to be right and yes that will manifest in a lot of different ways but at least we can know then that no matter what happens we gave it our best.

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t-1000

honestly I don't think being black would hurt mr obama. Likely even the opposite I think.

People seem to associate anti-black with anti-ghetto/thuggish. I think they are seperate, and the number of anti-blacks left in american is very low.

The problem is that 90% of the ghetto/thuggish culture is comprised of blacks, and the other 10% is 8% hispanic and 2% something else. That is... based on what you see on MTV, which is where people are getting it.

This isn't a black man with a grill and doo-rag and I think america recognizes that. Plus I think it would make the american people feel warm and fuzzy inside to elect a black man.

It makes a great talking point... except for me im fucking sick of hearing it.

It's working in his favor already as far as I can tell. I just want to hear about his politics.

Plainsman1963

Well, might want to get your vision checked...Unless by some stretch of the imagination Paul gets the nomination, I have no intention of voting for any republican candidate that has made their intentions known so far.

So how you can "see" that I would like them seems to be assigning me intentions I do not have. Perhaps you are projecting?

As hard as it is for some folks to understand, there are people out there that actually vote for the candidate they feel would be the best for the actual job, not lesser of two evils or electability.

I understand those folks don't get it...No problem. For me, it has to do with being true to the process, moral compass, whatever you want to call it.
I know, we're the whole problem with the system...If only we would vote for more of the same, it's worked out so well for us.

fuzzyninja

Seeing as this is the first year I'll be able to vote, it's very exciting that I'll be first voting on something that could make history. A black or woman president!

I think Obama is a good candidate. He seems like a kind, intelligent family man. He frequently talks about changing this country - something I don't see from the Republican candidates, obviously. I need to find out what his views are on stem cell research and marijuana to make a final decision, though. The only problem is that there are too many racist people and/or stubborn Republicans that will vote Republican just because they won't change their mind. But I think my generation will have more 18-21 year old voters. It just seems like it's becoming more of a popular thing to do than it was in the past, and if for no other reason - he's black and there are a lot of "gangsters" nowadays.

Anyways, I hope Obama gets the nomination.

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