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Freedom_User

Jellybean = Hero.

I was wondering one question. When his people said that they would not decriminalize marijuana. But he did say that, "If prescribed by your Doctor, it is okay" Somewhere in that same line... Does that mean he will make it Nationwide for medicinal use?

I could be wrong... Please explain?

 

SacredJellybean

Both Clinton and Obama said they would end MMJ raids. That means that if they keep their word, they'll stop the DEA from busting medical marijuana patients and hopefully clinics as well.

In 2004, Obama said he thought marijuana should be decriminalized and that too many people were being locked up for it. In 2008, he raised his hand during a debate to indicate that he disagreed with decriminalization. After stoners got upset about it, his campaign said something like, "Don't worry guys! He didn't understand what decriminalization meant! He didn't mean to raise his hand!" (obviously in a more professional way, but they cited Obama's ignorance of the meaning of the word "decriminalization", which I'm not sure is better than him going back on his original position). Then, later on, before this caught the media's attention, his campaign claimed that Obama does not support decriminalization. So, who knows. Sounds like he can't decide whether he should play the safe route or the take progressive route (while simultaneously catering to younger voters). I think he should just say what he believes, personally, but you can't expect too much out of even a young, fresh politician who hasn't been in Washington long enough to reveal any kind of inconsistent or bullshit-ish behaviors.

Unfortunately, it's the nature of the presidential campaign to appeal to as many people as you can, and while I don't like this kind of waffling, I still think he's better than the other candidates.

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sterbo

I've been following this Thread awhile and each time I think I'll jump in, I read another well written and well considered post from Sacred who, with this last one shows a degree of intelligence and patience that all of us here could do well to emulate.

Any of us, all day and night, can conjure endless ways to find fault with anyone on this planet and frankly that's what a few folks here seem to be doing with Obama. Their prerogative of course, but it certainly becomes tedious.

Barak Obama represents a quantum shift in mindset that this country, this world, desperately needs.
We've finally got a shot to elect an individual who will truly embrace that commitment after (and there's the key qualifier) he becomes President.
We've heard it all before and most of the time it's no more than hollow rhetoric geared toward the usual (not so hidden) dysfunctional agendas.

Heck you guys, there is nobody else on the playing field (electable anyway) who even remotely represents the very real change that we all must empower - NOW, not later, not next time.
This man is willing to give his life (hopefully just figuratively) to lead us where we all better well go, unless of course you're satisfied with our ever increasing spiral toward self destruction...
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Freedom_User

Agreed.

I would just like to ask him a question IF he does not agree with decriminalizing marijuana.

"You admit to smoking cannabis quit frequently. If caught, would you think you would be in the same position you are now?"

...Would he?

Viper420

He only agreeds to MJ decriminalization when he's talking to pro Mj people. He then puts on his other face and tells the vast anti-MJ people he has no intention of legalizing or decriminalizing MJ. He did the same thing with the racist preacher incident. For 20 years he listened intently while Rev. Wrong told his people how evil White America was and then when someone actually got a hold of some video tapes of him actually saying it, then and only then, did he actually say anything about it. You can foo foo it all you want but people will remember his defence of his racist preacher.

 

troublemaker_42

You don't mean Obama could POSSIBLY be like other politicans and only tell epople what they want to hear, do you? Don't you know hes....different......... that hes goingf to bring change to the world. I simply don't see why people believe that about Obama anymore than they do from any other politican. its not like Obama hasn't flip-flopped on his views or cahnged them altogether dependinn on who he was speaking to at the moment. Hes a politican...a liar by nature. I'm scared to death of this guy leading our country. I'm not saying Clinton would be any better, or even McCain, but once again we're down to picking the less eveil of the group, and not necessary the best person for the job. Its sad the last three elections or so have resulted in me not casting my vote because I wanted someone to win, but moreso because i was scared of the oppsotion winning.

I'm calling this thread quits, not because I feel as though I've been "beaten" but that we could run circles around the same topic all day long, without either of us ever accecpting the opposing view. We're all entitled to our opinions, and its not til our candiate of choice wins that we can start point fingers and playing the "I told you so!" game. Maybe I'm completely wrong about Obama, but quite frankly, I don't care to find out if he's going to be as horrible for our country as I fear. I'm sure others have the same reservations about McCain, or even Clinton. Right now, I see NO candidates that are good for mj legalization, I se no candidates I can count on to protect my 2nd Amendmnet rights, and quite frankly, no candidates I think will lead America into a period of wealth and prosperity. No matter who wins, they will spend the majority of thier first term simply trying to undo the clusterfuck of GWB. Thts a monumental task to ask of anyone

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Viper420

I pretty much agree with you also. The diehard followers of Obama will ignore the shortcomings of the man no matter what they are.
As far as your 2nd amendment rights, the GOP is much more in tune with that than the Liberals. I'm surprized that they haven't tried to ban BB guns as you could shoot someones eye out with one.

Freedom_User

I got you guys are anti Obama. Good for you. But, yeah... Make another Anti-Obama thread.

http://www.marijuana.com/introductio...uidelines.html

troublemaker_42

ummm...thanks for that, but as a former site admin here, I'm quite familiar with the rules. You've not exactly been on-topic throughout this thread either

Freedom_User

Than I am at fault, and agree. But, my question is this. What is you're opinion on this?


Or does it not matter? Because it's just not how politics work....?