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troublemaker_42

The "what ifs" DON'T really matter. Our current president certainly wouldn't have been elected had he been convicted of cocaine possession back in the day either, but he's ending his second term.

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Remember you're a wreck, an accident
forget the freak, you're just nature
Keep the gun oiled and the temple clean
shit, snort and blaspheme
Let the heads cool and the engine run
Because in the end,
everything we do
is just everything we've done..."Omega" by StoneSour

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sterbo

Patience under fire and choosing one's battles wisely is one sign of maturity and strong leadership.
We talk about it here often enough. How do we get someone elected to an office of real power who will act in our stead, that, without them getting derailed along the way.
Some might call it duplicity when a candidate plays both sides of the fence regarding a specific issue. And while that is all too often true, sometimes, just maybe, it is no more than a strategy whereby the field can finally be won.
Here is just one more shot across the bow to those who think Obama will be no advocate to those who believe persecution of marihuana and those who use it once he has the power to really make a difference.

One step at a time mates, one step at a time...


Obama gets Richardson endorsement

Mr Richardson (R) said Mr Obama was a "once-in-a-lifetime" candidate

Democratic US presidential hopeful Barack Obama is to be endorsed by New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, himself a former candidate. Mr Richardson is expected to make his endorsement in Portland, Oregon.
It comes after a week in which footage of controversial comments made by Mr Obama's pastor threatened to damage his campaign.
Both Mr Obama and rival Hillary Clinton had been actively lobbying Mr Richardson for his endorsement.
"I believe he is the kind of once-in-a-lifetime leader that can bring our nation together and restore America's moral leadership in the world," said Mr Richardson, in a statement quoted by the Associated Press news agency.
He also praised Mrs Clinton as a "distinguished leader with vast experience", but said that Mr Obama "will be a historic and great president, who can bring us the change we so desperately need".*


*BBC

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Viper420

I call it "telling a lie". Is it a hollow victory if you have to decieve people in order to win?

sterbo

Be careful of that high horse you're on Viper: everybody lies at one time or another, everybody.
Everyone of us has utilized deceit to one degree or another during the course of our lives.
The more compelling question is, what's the motive when we do...
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Viper420

Yes, everyone lies, but not everyone makes a career out of it.

 

dedbr

Not to be defending Obama, but the religious experience of today seems to fly into the face of reason and common sense. A man educated as Obama is may be a lot closer to being an atheist than we think. I really don't think his black history is going to let him grasp racism too easily.

Sometimes the message from the pulpit needs to be taken with a grain of salt. After all, we all are humans with human problems and prejudices that are hard to get out of our thinking. The saving grace of Obama is we can hope that he's had enough experience with prejudice from both sides ,white and black, and that he will do something to bring us closer together.......

Hillary is climbing in Super Delegates but Barrack still had the delgate count and votes........They need to go back to one man, one vote. I didn't like the feeling of something very wrong about Dudya winning in Florida.....

Oh well, my rant for the day.........


Some Where In Ded Land.............

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AnAmericanHero

I don't like the way you go about this at all. He wasn't being negative towards users. He was speaking out of his own experience.

And the majority actually are disaffected. It is usually why people begin drugs. Most Marijuana users I know only use it to get away from life/rules.

Also... saying that is like saying, "Yeah, this world sucks. Instead of doing anything about it... ...I'm gonna go get high."

I may be a Marijuana user but I would never laugh at the wrong in our society.

SacredJellybean

I don't understand your train of thought. You say people begin drugs because they are disaffected, and then say they use them to get away from life/rules. If they need a substance to make them feel better, aren't they affected to begin with?

And anyway, maybe a majority of weed users you know use it to get away from life/rules, but I'd suggest that it's more a factor of the smokers you happen to hang out with than it being an actual indictation of personality types/motives/factions among a sample population. Most cannabis users I know are smart, happy, and motivated people, who know the concept of moderation.

Do you think that people who recreationally drink alcohol also do so because they are trying to get away from life? Most people I see, they have a few beers to relax their minds or to have fun, not because they're running away from something. Most people I see, they smoke weed for the same reason. I think it would be much more apparent if it were legal, but that's the way it is.

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"Every age has its peculiar folly and if Charles Mackay, the author of the 19th century classic, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds were alive today he would surely see 'cannabinophobia' as a popular delusion along with the 'tulipmania' and 'witch hunts' of earlier ages. ... I also believe that future historians will look at this epoch and recognize it as another instance of the 'madness of crowds.'"
~Dr. Lester Grinspoon

troublemaker_42

Obama's "guns and god" comment sealed the deal as far as my utter dislike for the man. I have absolutely NO faith in him being a friend to mj users or gun owners. He's a politican....the only time he lies is when he opens his mouth. Truth be told, i LOVE watching him and hil tear each other down. By then end of the race, the democratic party is going to be too deeply divided to ever put someone in office. McCain certainly isn't my IDEAL candidate, but I perfer him far and above the other choices at this point. Luckiluy, they are both in self-destruct mode at this point, each so bitter at the other that winning the race seems almost secondary to them at this point. I say let them scrap it out, ruin each other's credibility (or whats left of it at this point) and let McCain coast in because of it.

Bernie420

The more I listen to Obama, the more I realize how much of a liberal he is. Just like America doesn't need an ultra conservative, America doesn't need an ultra liberal either.