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Old 07-19-2008, 07:01 PM   #81
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will never happen cig companys help control it they would lose money as well as beer and such, also rope industry....
Why would the cigarette companies lose money if MJ was legal? I can see where you're coming from concerning the beer industry although I think you're misguided about the amount of business they may lose. And why would the rope company care? If anything they'd push for another source of construction material for their products. The current synthetic materials have got to cost more than plant fibers and with business, doesn't the bottom line matter the most?
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:26 AM   #82
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I'd say that he came to weed with a very negative mindset. If you use recreational drugs to help you forget what a loser you are, you become a bigger loser and your life begins to center around drugs. If you use them responsibly, moderately, and at appropriate times they can be life-enhancing.

As with a lot of things, the mindset you have towards them is much more significant than the things themselves.


The majority of people who use cannabis are not disaffected. They're just people who like to get high on occasion.


That's one of the positive aspects of being a marijuana user! If I couldn't laugh at the incredibly screwed-up human condition, I'd probably want to kill myself.
I think you would have to quantify what you just said about drug use, as it pertains to Barack Obama`s early life.............Excerpt:
Main article: Early life and career of Barack Obama
Obama was born on August 4, 1961, at the Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Obama, Sr., a Black Kenyan of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham, a White American from Wichita, Kansas. His parents met while both were attending the University of Hawaii at Manoa, where his father was enrolled as a foreign student.[3] They separated when he was two years old and later divorced.[4] Obama's father returned to Kenya and saw his American-born son only once more before dying in an automobile accident in 1982.[5] After her divorce, Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, and the family moved to Soetoro's home country of Indonesia in 1967, where Obama attended local schools in Jakarta until he was ten years old. He then returned to Honolulu to live with his maternal grandparents while attending the private Punahou School from the fifth grade in 1971 until his graduation from high school in 1979.[6] Obama's mother returned to Hawaii in 1972 for several years, then returning to Indonesia for her fieldwork. She died of ovarian cancer in 1995.[7]
Following high school, Obama moved to Los Angeles, where he studied at Occidental College for two years.[8] He then transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialization in international relations.[9] Obama graduated with a B.A. from Columbia in 1983, then worked at Business International Corporation and New York Public Interest Research Group.[10][11]

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Take note that he chose a career in the application of the very things he despised as a youth. People do drugs for a variety of reasons; most of which a large number of individuals are not consciously aware of themselves. I hope this brilliant young man continues to challenge us all to become assets to our families and our nation. Great to know that today`s generation of college age men and women are more than willing to take up a challenge.Give `em something worthy to strive for, Barack.
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:30 PM   #83
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Take note that he chose a career in the application of the very things he despised as a youth. People do drugs for a variety of reasons; most of which a large number of individuals are not consciously aware of themselves. I hope this brilliant young man continues to challenge us all to become assets to our families and our nation. Great to know that today`s generation of college age men and women are more than willing to take up a challenge.Give `em something worthy to strive for, Barack.
Absolutely man! I really wasn't into politics until Obama busted into the scene. With his character, and his strong stances on many things has made him one of my heroes. His story is absolutely amazing and I idolize him.
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I am voting for him regardless. I cannot handle another George Bush President.

Back on subject...

Obama said, "If prescribed by Doctor, he will stop the raids on MM users."

Does that mean it will be nationwide if prescribed?
I had hoped at one time that the latest Democrat challenging for the presidency would grow som balls and stick to his beliefs. Not that a president can end all be all in the US government, but I was hoping against hope that Obama wouldn`t follow in the footsteps of the Clinton, Gore, Kerry trilogy of liars andwafflers. Oh well, maybe when political science catches on to how difficult it is to hide duplicity. If Obama continues the way he`s been conducting himself, he will not amount to much in the White House.


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February 8, 2008 - Washington, DC, USA

Washington, DC: Senator Barack Obama’s campaign backed away from statements made last week affirming the Senator’s support for decriminalizing marijuana, after being confronted with inconsistencies in his past and present campaigns on the issue by the Washington Times. A spokesman for Obama’s campaign blamed confusion over the meaning of decriminalization for the inconsistencies, and said that while Obama does not support decriminalization, "we are sending far too many first-time, nonviolent drug users to prison for very long periods of time, and that we should rethink those laws."
For more information, please contact Allen St. Pierre, NORML Executive Director, at: allen@norml.org. Full text of the Washington Times article can be found at: http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080201/NATION/43529865/0/FRONTPAGE.
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Old 07-22-2008, 10:26 PM   #85
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You're totally right. I started the same way Mr. Obama did. After awhile of that, shit around here started to get f*cked up. Cops everywhere pulling people over for nothing, profiling almost every teenager they see. Places like the park started to get messed up too. The cops bought 2 quads that patrol the park on weeknights and all weekend. There was nowhere left to go. But we found a place. We started smoking out my friend's barn and one night, his mom walked in. She knows we all smoke, and she smokes too. But she lectured us anyway, and that's exactly what she said. And you know what, a the next week, when we ran out of weed and were totally sober, I started thinking and realized that she's right.

Now I'm trying to switch from total fucking stoner, getting as fucking high as I can everyday, to the occasional user. I got a job, work during the week, then Friday or Saturday night, toke up, have some fun.

I like Obama, but I'm not 100% sure he is going to keep his promises. I've been rooting for him the whole way. I Know he isn't going to deliver like he is saying, but now he's the best we got.
Oh yeah? I think yer Ma`s a million times the best for you than BO.
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Old 07-23-2008, 07:49 AM   #86
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I had hoped at one time that the latest Democrat challenging for the presidency would grow som balls and stick to his beliefs. Not that a president can end all be all in the US government, but I was hoping against hope that Obama wouldn`t follow in the footsteps of the Clinton, Gore, Kerry trilogy of liars andwafflers. Oh well, maybe when political science catches on to how difficult it is to hide duplicity. If Obama continues the way he`s been conducting himself, he will not amount to much in the White House.


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Washington, DC: Senator Barack Obama’s campaign backed away from statements made last week affirming the Senator’s support for decriminalizing marijuana, after being confronted with inconsistencies in his past and present campaigns on the issue by the Washington Times. A spokesman for Obama’s campaign blamed confusion over the meaning of decriminalization for the inconsistencies, and said that while Obama does not support decriminalization, "we are sending far too many first-time, nonviolent drug users to prison for very long periods of time, and that we should rethink those laws."
For more information, please contact Allen St. Pierre, NORML Executive Director, at: allen@norml.org. Full text of the Washington Times article can be found at: http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080201/NATION/43529865/0/FRONTPAGE.
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and this is old news to most of us wheo have been keeping up on the coverage...Obama, like any other politican, tells people what they want to hear, regardless of his personal feelings...personal feelings on issues don't get votes...appealing to the masses at every turn (even if it is all based in deceit) does. Obama is no differnt from Clinton...or McCain...or Romney...or Gullieani....or Bush....or anyone else who has to be elected into power. They all lie through their teeth to get the power they so desperately want. I can't think of a single candidtate that hasn''t flipped flopped on issues numerous times, just to echo the feelings of America at that specific point and time.
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and this is old news to most of us wheo have been keeping up on the coverage...Obama, like any other politican, tells people what they want to hear, regardless of his personal feelings...personal feelings on issues don't get votes...appealing to the masses at every turn (even if it is all based in deceit) does. Obama is no differnt from Clinton...or McCain...or Romney...or Gullieani....or Bush....or anyone else who has to be elected into power. They all lie through their teeth to get the power they so desperately want. I can't think of a single candidtate that hasn''t flipped flopped on issues numerous times, just to echo the feelings of America at that specific point and time.
So you might want to look where they stood before their vision was clouded with dreams of power. Odds are, thats where they stand on policy issues.
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