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Old 09-10-2007, 06:47 AM   #1
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Default Barack Obama Quote on his past marijuana use

Junkie. That's where I'd been headed: the final, fatal role of the young would-be black man. Except the highs hadn't been about me trying to prove what a down brother I was. Not by then, anyway. I got high for just the opposite effect, something that could push questions of who I was out of my mind, something that could flatten out the landscape of my heart, blur the edges of my memory. I had discovered that it didn't make any difference whether you smoked reefer in the white classmate's sparkling new van, or in the dorm room of some brother you'd met down at the gym, or on the beach with a couple of Hawaiian kids who had dropped out of school and now spent most of their time looking for an excuse to brawl. You might just be bored, or alone. Everybody was welcome into the club of disaffection. And if the high didn't solve whatever it was that was getting you down, it could at least help you laugh at the world's ongoing folly and see through all the hypocrisy and bullshit and cheap moralism.
Source: Dreams from My Father, by Barack Obama, p. 87 Aug 1, 1996


haha wow.. For those who are or arent supporters of Barack Obama what do you think about this?
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:26 AM   #2
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I'd say that he came to weed with a very negative mindset. If you use recreational drugs to help you forget what a loser you are, you become a bigger loser and your life begins to center around drugs. If you use them responsibly, moderately, and at appropriate times they can be life-enhancing.

As with a lot of things, the mindset you have towards them is much more significant than the things themselves.

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That's one of the positive aspects of being a marijuana user! If I couldn't laugh at the incredibly screwed-up human condition, I'd probably want to kill myself.
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:06 AM   #3
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well he may have had some of the worng reasons in the beginning or at some parts of his life, but ide say he came through it pretty well.

and of all the other canidates ide have to say im in favor of him, he seems to be honest enough, even when its gonna be bad and thats what we need, anyone can tell good news but we want someone to tell us the bad news too, not hide it. i think we have had enough of that.

and the one thing that people bash on him for in not having "experience" i say thats a good thing because he isnt in the good ole boy network hes new so he can change things and has in my feeling a lesser chance ot be swayed. i dont know just my thaughts...
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Old 03-16-2008, 07:41 AM   #4
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I agree with you gravity.

He is going to decriminalize marijuana use. But he is not in favor of legalizing it. And in one of his speeches he did say that the war on drugs is not working and needs to be changed.
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Old 06-22-2008, 11:15 PM   #5
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When making his statement about his past use of mary J, he said that he pretty much was using it as an excape. This is what we should not do with mary J, I think that if he does become president he is not going to leaglize it because he would be saying that is is alright to use maryJ as a drug (escape) I suffer from a chronic pain disorder and I have used mary J for the relife of the pain..

It would be better to leaglize it, and sell it just like Beer, Wine, hard liquar, whatever. In my 8 years of somoking pot I have never heard of it killing someone. If they would leaglize it I bet the government would make a mint off of the tax itself. So many americans use it but are to ashamed or scared to say they do, because of the concequences that they (we) might encounter. I hope to see the day that I can smoke freely... Like I smoke my cigs.
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Old 04-23-2008, 01:42 AM   #6
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I'd say that he came to weed with a very negative mindset. If you use recreational drugs to help you forget what a loser you are, you become a bigger loser and your life begins to center around drugs. If you use them responsibly, moderately, and at appropriate times they can be life-enhancing.

As with a lot of things, the mindset you have towards them is much more significant than the things themselves.


The majority of people who use cannabis are not disaffected. They're just people who like to get high on occasion.
I don't like the way you go about this at all. He wasn't being negative towards users. He was speaking out of his own experience.

And the majority actually are disaffected. It is usually why people begin drugs. Most Marijuana users I know only use it to get away from life/rules.

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That's one of the positive aspects of being a marijuana user! If I couldn't laugh at the incredibly screwed-up human condition, I'd probably want to kill myself.
Also... saying that is like saying, "Yeah, this world sucks. Instead of doing anything about it... ...I'm gonna go get high."

I may be a Marijuana user but I would never laugh at the wrong in our society.
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Old 04-23-2008, 02:18 AM   #7
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And the majority actually are disaffected. It is usually why people begin drugs. Most Marijuana users I know only use it to get away from life/rules.
I don't understand your train of thought. You say people begin drugs because they are disaffected, and then say they use them to get away from life/rules. If they need a substance to make them feel better, aren't they affected to begin with?

And anyway, maybe a majority of weed users you know use it to get away from life/rules, but I'd suggest that it's more a factor of the smokers you happen to hang out with than it being an actual indictation of personality types/motives/factions among a sample population. Most cannabis users I know are smart, happy, and motivated people, who know the concept of moderation.

Do you think that people who recreationally drink alcohol also do so because they are trying to get away from life? Most people I see, they have a few beers to relax their minds or to have fun, not because they're running away from something. Most people I see, they smoke weed for the same reason. I think it would be much more apparent if it were legal, but that's the way it is.
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Obama's "guns and god" comment sealed the deal as far as my utter dislike for the man. I have absolutely NO faith in him being a friend to mj users or gun owners. He's a politican....the only time he lies is when he opens his mouth. Truth be told, i LOVE watching him and hil tear each other down. By then end of the race, the democratic party is going to be too deeply divided to ever put someone in office. McCain certainly isn't my IDEAL candidate, but I perfer him far and above the other choices at this point. Luckiluy, they are both in self-destruct mode at this point, each so bitter at the other that winning the race seems almost secondary to them at this point. I say let them scrap it out, ruin each other's credibility (or whats left of it at this point) and let McCain coast in because of it.
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Obama's "guns and god" comment sealed the deal as far as my utter dislike for the man. I have absolutely NO faith in him being a friend to mj users or gun owners. He's a politican....the only time he lies is when he opens his mouth. Truth be told, i LOVE watching him and hil tear each other down. By then end of the race, the democratic party is going to be too deeply divided to ever put someone in office. McCain certainly isn't my IDEAL candidate, but I perfer him far and above the other choices at this point. Luckiluy, they are both in self-destruct mode at this point, each so bitter at the other that winning the race seems almost secondary to them at this point. I say let them scrap it out, ruin each other's credibility (or whats left of it at this point) and let McCain coast in because of it.
The more I listen to Obama, the more I realize how much of a liberal he is. Just like America doesn't need an ultra conservative, America doesn't need an ultra liberal either.
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I'd say that he came to weed with a very negative mindset. If you use recreational drugs to help you forget what a loser you are, you become a bigger loser and your life begins to center around drugs. If you use them responsibly, moderately, and at appropriate times they can be life-enhancing.

As with a lot of things, the mindset you have towards them is much more significant than the things themselves.


The majority of people who use cannabis are not disaffected. They're just people who like to get high on occasion.


That's one of the positive aspects of being a marijuana user! If I couldn't laugh at the incredibly screwed-up human condition, I'd probably want to kill myself.
You're totally right. I started the same way Mr. Obama did. After awhile of that, shit around here started to get f*cked up. Cops everywhere pulling people over for nothing, profiling almost every teenager they see. Places like the park started to get messed up too. The cops bought 2 quads that patrol the park on weeknights and all weekend. There was nowhere left to go. But we found a place. We started smoking out my friend's barn and one night, his mom walked in. She knows we all smoke, and she smokes too. But she lectured us anyway, and that's exactly what she said. And you know what, a the next week, when we ran out of weed and were totally sober, I started thinking and realized that she's right.

Now I'm trying to switch from total fucking stoner, getting as fucking high as I can everyday, to the occasional user. I got a job, work during the week, then Friday or Saturday night, toke up, have some fun.

I like Obama, but I'm not 100% sure he is going to keep his promises. I've been rooting for him the whole way. I Know he isn't going to deliver like he is saying, but now he's the best we got.
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