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mufasa5446

we're such a big country it's hard to get so many people to agree to do something, along with how lazy we are. In such a diverse country it would be very hard to get people who are willing to, and have the ability to, hold something back like taxes.

What is a topic you think everyone (or at least enough people) in America will agree on to perform something like going on strike with the risks?

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Bernie420

Let's see...hold back my taxes? I'm sure the jury will be completely understanding at my trial.
Lets now look at your next suggestion...Boycott. Boycott who? Boycott what?
Okay, now lets look at your next suggestion....go on strike. You're now suggesting that I fuck myself up financially and possibly get evicted and lose my job so that MJ can be legal. Let me think about that for awhile.

gangstahippi

America is a diverse country and people are all into different things, the country run by hatred and resentment. The thing about Obama is that he overcomes prejudice. I think that what brings people together the most is music. In the sixties it was the Beatles and stuff. But we don't need that anymore. We don't need this new music that's all mournful and stuff. The country needs hope, the country needs to overcome assumption. Instead of being afraid of difference, we need to embrace it and love it, because it is truly interesting, and that, I think, is the way that Americans could come together. Americans are lazy, they don't want to get involved, they want to drink and smoke and have fun. But you know what? We should get a clue from the French. The people in Washington just do what they always do, but I really hope the dems win.

KingDub

If you really want change, you have to get off your ass and sacrifice something. For god's sakes, most people don't even vote in this country, and they have the arrogance to whine about their government? Turnout in my state's last gubernatorial election was like 33%, and much lower for local elections; yet people complain about my area's immigration policies. Your vote is power. Use it.

That's step one.

Step two.

You can boycott anyone. It doesn't matter who. Boycott the companies that drug test their employees. Boycott the companies that support the War Drugs. Boycotting requires organization, but money is power. Put your wallet to use.

And that's not the only thing you can do.

You can go to protests. If enough people bothered to show up, they WOULD make a difference. Ask the French workers who shut down their government as an act of protest.

You can join an organization, volunteer, phone bank, register voters, write to the local newspaper--I don't have to hold your hand and do it for you. You're making up excuses for doing nothing.

You aren't the only person who has a full time job. The world doesn't change by itself.

sterbo

The problem is that for anybody to win (as you put it), regardless from where they start, or how unique a perspective they bring to the table,
they eventually have to become a "front runner".
Therefore our long established system for the election of those to represent us,
is bereft of all hope

That being the case, what do you propose as the solution?
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Bernie420

How do you expect someone who is banned to respond to your question?

Bernie420

And tell me what you expect me to sacrifice so you can smoke pot?

I do vote. Have been since 76.

Boycotting everyone is stupid and only makes you look like a nut.

Did it do them any good? They STILL got laid off.

I don't need you to do squat for me. I can take care of MYSELF just fine.

And what the fuck is that supposed to mean? You are either single or have no responsibilities. I am not going to risk my job so you can get high. My family is depending on me to take care of some big ass bills. If I lost my job over some bullshit issue like MJ, can I expect you to pay my mortgage or the light bill? I thought not.

sterbo

Relax Bernie.
'Ol Viper will be back from vacation sooner than you think.
If nothing else, it gives him ample time to come up with a response that makes sense.
Hell, we can aways hope can't we?
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djelimon

I respectfully disagree. Since Reagan the idea of laissez-faire economics has taken over North America. Essentially rolling back economic reforms to before the New Deal.

A basic tennet of this school of economics, pioneered by Milton Friedman, is that government regulation should be minimized, ideally eliminated, and really the only service that should be provided is police and military.

Now, some cynical people might think these ideas may be great for profits, not so good for people.

And everywhere these ideas have been tried unfettered, results have been not good for people, entire nations in fact.

A good book to read about this is Shock Doctrine, by Naomi Klien.

America is going through now what the UK went through under Thatcher. Well, has been for a long time. Fact is Clinton's economic policies weren't that different from Reagans.

Obama is on record as advocating increasing taxes on outsourcing companies doing business in America, and giving breaks to to those who employ locally.

With the price of fuel, it's only a matter of time before imports go down anyway.

But that being said, this is one reason as to why I think Obama differs from the others. See also the tax holiday.

KingDub

Legalizing cannabis is pretty low on my list of priorities when it comes civic action.

Wow, for someone who is older than I, that's a borderline childish argument to make. I guess all those black people in Birmingham, who stayed off the buses and sat in on restaurants, just got lucky? Maybe you should educate yourself before you start making such foolish comments.

Actually, it did do them good. They didn't get laid off at all (I guess you just made that up for convenience), because they got exactly what they wanted.

Yet, you continue to make up excuses for why you can't take control of your life, and make a difference in society. And you continue to lash out at me for calling you out on it.

I'm not asking you to do anything for me. I'm asking you to do something for yourself, and for your society as a whole. Again, this has nothing to do with weed.

You may have complaints about our government, about our economic policies, which are legitimate and have a serious impact not only on your family, but on your ability to pay for those "big ass bills" you are talking about. You can change the government with action, and don't pretend that you don't have time. It doesn't even take much. A few days out of the year at the most can make a significant impact when people are acting together.

If free time is such an issue, perhaps you should consider getting involved in the labor rights movement. In Europe, the average person works thirty hours a week, and often less--and they live longer, have less instances of heart disease, and are generally happier than Americans. They have just as much money, and more time to enjoy it. You won't find the kind of poverty in Europe like you do in America.

But then, I guess you could just sit in your chair and get angry when someones calls you and your countrymen out for being apathetic.

"If the truth offends you, you need to be offended."