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troublemaker_42

I am in NO WAY an Obama supporter. As much as the postion is unpopular around these parts, I'm a complete 180 from Obama and support McCain Obama's positions on gun control alone are enough to make me support anyone whose name isn't Obaam or Clinton. Thats just the tip of the iceberg as far as my deep dislike of Obama and what I believe he stands for. If you are going to attack what I have to say, you'll have to dig deeper than "I must be crazy about Obama" because nothing could be further from the truth. Click the link in my sig, and you'll find many of the reasons I ORIGINALLY disliked Obama....the reasons have expanded considerably since then, but that gives a good peek into what this allegedly "pro second amendment" politician is REALLY like. His voting record and what he tells people seems to distinctly clash with one another. here in SD, he was cheered when he said he supported the 2nd Amendment, yet anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together can look at his voting record and past opinions, and realize what a bald-faced LIE such a statement is. Calling either of the 2 democratic candidates "pro gun rights" is a laughable statment given their voting records and support of completely anti-gun legislation. The only reason they pander to gun owners at all is they are afraid of the 80 million legal gun owners in the US....without support from them, they won't be winning any elections. So, rather than speak on their true feelings regarding firearms, they either prance around the issue or simply lie about it. Democrats realized in 2000 making gun control a central issue in a Presidential election is political suicice, so instead they just avoid the issue as much as possible or lie about it if directly confronted on the issue.

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Higher Logic

No, he won't. And if you think he will, please send me a PM so I can give you my address so you can send me whatever the hell it is you're smoking.

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Thnks for the drop into let you know how your doin, Logic......At least I hopeeverthing is OK........


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JohnBoySmoker

You couldn't be more right. There are a lot of people who are deluding themselves into thinking that Barak is something more than your run of the mill politician. The only difference between him and Ted Kennedy is the color of their skin. Plus Barak didn't sink a girl to the bottom of a river either but thats a different story.

SacredJellybean

Can you explain your charge a bit more? A typical liberal, political-opportunistic candidate?

I still don't think he's as subject to the demands of lobbyists as Clinton or McCain. It's easy to smell the best when you're inside a dumpster with a bum that's been homeless for a couple months and smells a bit, and a disgusting, feces covered bum that screams 80s pop (I'll leave you to guess which is which).

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SacredJellybean

So how does that world of yours look? Kind of convoluted? I imagine seeing in shades of only black and white must very much distort your vision. Brainwashing? Seriously?

It's a democratic republic, maybe? Jake could answer you that. And anyway, as it's been said, not a majority of people support ending the drug war, and not a majority of the people support marijuana policy reform (unless you count medical marijuana, which is a separate tier than the recreational one when you get right down to it).

Re-classifying marijuana will give ammunition to plenty of talking heads, charging that the candidate is soft on crime and doesn't have the balls to be the head of our great kick-ass nation. Babysteps. If you think you'll see legalization any time soon, you're far off. The advent of the internet is certainly facilitating things, but I'd give it another generation before such legislation is even considered. It will be interesting to see how much support the decriminalization bill gets, but it will probably fail.


How many states does this occur under? There you go, there's a goal. Spread awareness of key points where we think we can sway the vote towards reform. It won't happen on a wide scale, so narrow your scope a little.

Do you buy into the economic marijuana conspiracy theories? I'm sorry, but I highly disagree. Sheltered, ignorant people think it's a dangerous drug. Even a lot of DOCTORS think it's a dangerous drug. The awareness that it's not harmful and can be used easily in moderation (same as alcohol) needs to be brought forth to those who think smoking weed causes you to go insane, adopt amotivational syndrom, become dependent on a substance that could be life-threatening, etc.

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Federal Constitutional Republic, Jellybean.

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