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Old 05-20-2008, 07:50 PM   #1
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Default Marijuana.Com Take Down or Post a Response To The Deceptive MPP Video on Your Front

I'ld suggest you post this one or another similiar to it as a response.

If you support this please send a shout out. I know I might get some flack for this, but so be it. The truth is the truth.

This video is a response to the video that is posted on the front page of this website. It shows out of date info that needs to be corrected.


Despite what the MPP (Marijuana Policy Project) video might suggest, Barack Obama does not support marijuana decrim.

On the subject of cannabis Barack Obama is weak and most certainly does not support marijuana decrim.

Support a politician in a day and age where 75%+ of voters support medical marijuana and he says, "I won't risk any political capital for it". Support that?

That's not worthy of our support or vote.

We are the majority, we know what is right, we demand it!

Let MPP know that you are not happy with their deceptive video.


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Send a message to Barack Obama that luke warm support and worrying about political capital is unacceptable on the issues of medical marijuana and decrim.


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Old 05-20-2008, 09:38 PM   #2
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Of the three people who are likely to sit in the Oval Office, Barack Obama is by far the best bet for marijuana users, period. His position is not exactly what I want. OTOH, if he took my ideal position he'd never get elected. We already have a "candidate" who takes that position and he'll sit in the oval office when Hell freezes over.

No, Obama doesn't say that he'll decriminalize marijuana. He wants to be President and that would be a deal-breaker. He has said that he'll stop the DEA from harassing medical marijuana patients and their suppliers in states with medical marijuana laws. That's a step in the right direction and much better than what Clinton or McCain has offered.

Why do you want to undermine his campaign? Do you think Ron Paul actually has a chance?
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Old 05-20-2008, 09:55 PM   #3
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Of the three people who are likely to sit in the Oval Office, Barack Obama is by far the best bet for marijuana users, period. His position is not exactly what I want. OTOH, if he took my ideal position he'd never get elected. We already have a "candidate" who takes that position and he'll sit in the oval office when Hell freezes over.

No, Obama doesn't say that he'll decriminalize marijuana. He wants to be President and that would be a deal-breaker. He has said that he'll stop the DEA from harassing medical marijuana patients and their suppliers in states with medical marijuana laws. That's a step in the right direction and much better than what Clinton or McCain has offered.

Why do you want to undermine his campaign? Do you think Ron Paul actually has a chance?
You are asking me to support more of the same. I am asking you to demand something more. What we deserve and are entitled to.

We have 75%+ voter support. He needs our votes. We bring new voters. If he isn't willing to support us when he needs us, he won't support us when he doesn't in the White House. That has never happened before and never will. Like Clinton he will escalate the drug war. Unless we force him to make a public stand here and now. That is the only way to get change. I don't support Obama though I could if he supported medical and decrim. I support change not people who pledge to take more control as he seems to do. We don't need Washington to tell us we can smoke pot as medicine. It's ridiculous. You've been brainwashed to think that it is normal politics. It's not. It's bought off politics against the now majority. The buyers win if nobody yells to loudly. If the public goes bonkers the candidate has an out clause. This is how things work. I know because I have done it over and over again. To businesses, orgs, candidates. You should give it a shot. Power to the people that ask for it. ASK FOR IT.
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Old 05-20-2008, 09:58 PM   #4
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Of the three people who are likely to sit in the Oval Office, Barack Obama is by far the best bet for marijuana users, period. His position is not exactly what I want. OTOH, if he took my ideal position he'd never get elected. We already have a "candidate" who takes that position and he'll sit in the oval office when Hell freezes over.

No, Obama doesn't say that he'll decriminalize marijuana. He wants to be President and that would be a deal-breaker. He has said that he'll stop the DEA from harassing medical marijuana patients and their suppliers in states with medical marijuana laws. That's a step in the right direction and much better than what Clinton or McCain has offered.

Why do you want to undermine his campaign?
Y'all want my two cents worth on this subject? Here it is -

Read again Buzzby's perfectly stated post. Then vote for Obama
cause when he becomes President we'll have reached the next critical plateau in our goal towards attaining freedom from persecution...
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Old 05-20-2008, 09:59 PM   #5
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Y'all want my two cents worth on this subject? Here it is -

Read again Buzzby's perfectly stated post. Then vote for Obama
cause when he becomes President we'll have reached the next critical plateau in our goal towards attaining freedom from persecution...
When Obama escalates the drug war, will you do something? Or will you roll over again?
People said the same thing for Clinton. Clinton for his time was even more out there with his secret support of marijuana. And he escalated it worse than Reagan/Bush!
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:03 PM   #6
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If three cons walk into a room and want to lead the country and for some reason we have to pick them what do you do?

You raise hell to get them to support the issues that you can, especially the ones that you have majority of voter support. You can't lose.

Unless your people get convinced (programmed) that they should be quiet and just vote for the one that looks the most like them. "Voting is democracy! Voting for criminals makes change. Exposing those cons for the shortcomings is not democracy! Get in line and vote for the criminals. We bring change! Go vote, do nothing else."

Shame the criminals works much better. Shame them, yell at them, write letters, join orgs that are really grassroots, start doing videos, etc. But supporting more of the same don't rock the boat? Yeah that's really going to work. It's worked so well lately!
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When Obama escalates the drug war, will you do something?
He won't, therefore the something I will do is applaud.
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Or will you roll over again?
Whatever do you mean, Again?
Be nice Mike. You don't know me at all and you certainly haven't read my posts pertaining to my past and present activism, let alone, morality.
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People said the same thing for Clinton. Clinton for his time was even more out there with his secret support of marijuana. And he escalated it worse than Reagan/Bush!
We're not talking about Clinton. We're talking about Barack Obama...
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He has said that he'll stop the DEA from harassing medical marijuana patients and their suppliers in states with medical marijuana laws. That's a step in the right direction and much better than what Clinton or McCain has offered.
You can't be 100% sure this is even the case from the recent videos and statements. His support was luke warm for medical. "I wouldn't risk any political capital for it."

Really won't risk political capital for people like me with 10+ years of back pain?

For my friend Marci, a grandmother that has had several strokes?

Won't risk it for my friends with HIV, MS?

And we have majority of voter support?

Are you serious?

He's lukewarm on medical if that. Exactly the same as Clinton. She might even be better. And I know she is shady and I loathe to support her.
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He won't, therefore the something I will do is applaud. Whatever do you mean, Again?
Be nice Mike. You don't know me at all and you certainly haven't read my posts pertaining to my past and present activism, let alone, morality.
We're not talking about Clinton. We're talking about Barack Obama...
I did nothing and voted for Clinton. The second time around I passed and started getting involved in democracy on the ground. I congratulate if that's what you do. I'd be very surprised to see many that work for legalization supporting Barack Obama. He does lousy among that vast group of marijuana reform activists I see. More the pick of the on the couch smoker or musicians that care but aren't tuned in well enough (because of life on the road, recording, trying to have a family) to really pay attention to who is actually doing and saying what. That's my take on it. Ask the local chapter people in any norml chapter or the worker bees at say high times or any of the compassion clinics etc, they are not generally in my opinion, supporting Obama for good reason.

I am being nice.

I'm spending my time and risking some political and possible monetary time (if I get sued)
to spread some truth for you to consider. Please do not personally take offense. As you said I do not know you but hope that you have an open mind and see what I am saying.

Obama will never support marijuana reform. Mark my words. Unless we revolt and continue to ask for it. LOUDLY.

RIGHT NOW UNTIL THE DNC.
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We're not talking about Clinton. We're talking about Barack Obama...
You know that saying history repeats itself? Well it does. Unless something changes.

Name one time a candidate for President has not supported an issue that had wide voter support but not popular with the elite and then got elected and enacted that thing?

I don't think it has ever happened or very likely at all.

It would be a remarkable thing if it did.

This issue has majority of voter support, but the money is against it. The only way that the issue beats the money, is if the people demand it. At all costs, over and over again. Think about it. You have to demand it from Obama. Right now.

And all candidates that come after him.
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