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Old 03-01-2004, 02:01 PM   #11
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Its not about the PLANT, it is about power. They dont care what you do as long as the Fed is in charge of it. Remember that " LAWs" are only for the lawfull.

A speed limit law, makes speeding illegal. But a speed limit sign does not stop you from accelerating past the posted limit.

The only thing that stops you from speeding is you, the law abiding citizen.

Driving drunk is illegal, so I guess this means no one can do it, right ?. Well legally sold alcohol, consummed legally, murdered 22,000 innoccent people last year.

Illegally consummed marijuana murdered no one. Remember it is all about control.
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I have often wondered about the power and control structure to our society.

Laws that restrict only bennefit the rich... --KMK

I use the following example a lot, but substitute any incredibly wealthy individual.

What causes Bill Gates to get up in the morning and go to work? Most of us go to work because we need the money. Some have the added advantage of loving their job which helps tremendously. Bill obviously doesn't need the money, so it must be that he loves his job, but what is it about his job that he loves so much? Any real geek will attest to the fact that Micro$oft's products could be a lot better than they are. I have used Linux, and find that aside from the complexities still inherant with that system, it is far superior. It's just harder to use. But then it is free too... The things that you can do are comparable, and Linux is more secure. With everything there are tradeoffs, but I stray...

The only reason I can think of why Bill Gates, the richest man in the world bothers to work is that he is addicted to the power of his position. That may not be the only reason, and it's probably somewhat contestable, but why else? If I had that much money, I would find someone competent enough to keep business going (maybe even make it better) and I'd retire. Work when I want, play when I want.

The richest people in the world are not motivated by money in any other sense than the control over others that it gives them. They have, or could have anything they want. The only thing that they can't take from us is our free will. But with the right number of dollars they can usually buy that.

The richest people in the world are much less interested in money than the control over us that can be attained when we don't have any money, and they posess most of it.

Money is the control they have chaining us to their servitude. We really are slaves for the most part.

Laws are control, money is control, and control goes against every fiber of free will we posess.

When we drive, we observe certain rules of the road. We drive within our lines, on the proper side of the orad, etc. We trust that everyone else will do the same, and as long as they do, no one gets hurt. The same could be true of life, if we merely folloewd a few simple rules, we could all get along fine.

Thing is people can't be made to be honerable, just as people can't be made to be responsible drivers. Rules are prety much created to be broken.

If we all chose to be responsible people, we wouldn't need so many rules, and we wouldn't need leaders to tell us what to do. If the grand experiment of freedom in this country fails, it will only be our own fault.

Question is what are we going to do about it?

Doc should always have the chronic, he should be able to grow his own cannabis, he would be responsible with it if he were allowed to do so. He would also have many more good times like he describes here if only we weren't so foolish to allow those who make the rules to dupe us into thinking that Gods gifts aren't good for us...

Sugar isn't good for us, but we shovel it into the kids and then wonder why they are so demonic...

Doc has written of how sugar is more addictive and damaging to society than cannabis, and recently the UN came out and said that people consume far too much sugar, and that sugar intake should be decreased a great deal. The people who sell the sugar were outraged, and started to debunk the science behind the reccomendation...

If drugs are bad for kids, and sugar is a drug, then why are we being duped into feeding our kids high sugar diets? Why is there so much sugar in our processed foods?

Read Xylitol— Our Sweet Salvation Then ask yourself why the government condones, even encourages kids to consume so much of a drug. Then wonder why they seem so adamant about the kids safety when it comes to marijuana. Or why they just can't muster the compassion required to allow sick and dying (suffering) people the ability to use a gift from the creator. I suppose they presume to know better than any creator what is best for us.

I'd like to report a hijacking in progress... --Doc Zombie

I could just keep going on and on and on and on and on...

The world just doesn't make much sense anymore to me. People just don't make sense, is it because I'm going nuts, or is it that the world has gone nuts, and I have started to see reality for what it really is? Our actions as a single species on this beautiful planet just don't make a whole lot of sense to me anymore. There just has to be something to fill the void besides all of this stuff made from petrolium...

I hear fuel is going up a buck a gallon this year... Betcha didn't expect that to be a product of this war...
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Old 03-01-2004, 10:13 PM   #13
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Default Excellent discussion.

Mamabuz - best retort I've heard in years!

Logos - you are absolutely right. Being a smoker has caused me to be more "anal" about my responsibilities. I think the reason is that I feel I have to compensate for short-term memory deficit :-), thereby making doubly sure I've accomplished all I should, or have done something corrrectly. So now I'm so in the habit of double and triple checking things, I do it even when I'm not high.

And, you're right about the money/power thing too. For myself, I've maintained my life the way I have out of self-defense. I know that if I screw up, it's going to co$t me - whether paying court costs, traffic fines, or overdue fees on bills. Anywhere you step outside the "law" in this country, it ends up costing you money, which puts you further down the "food chain", and makes you less powerful - less in control of your own destiny.

But, I shouldn't have to feel defensive about handling my life wisely. I should feel good about it! I'm doing the right things, for the wrong reason!!
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Default good story

you remind me of myself, cept minus the job and probably a bit younger too... 18 to be percise.
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I started reading this article and clicked on the link for the Di Vinci Code, and I spent an hour trying to figure it out...needless to say, I am going to read this book. The links are helpful and they spark your interest is a lot of other stuff....I appreciate them and I think they show that your site is about more then just smoking!

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When you dont know who else is out there you think your the only one.

Let me first describe myself, as I am very similar to the poster and other posters in this topic.

I am 18 years old, I smoke pot casually, I do not smoke pot all the time, I am not lazy. I run over 40 websites on the internet, I write high stories, and I go to college. Ive actually given some of my stories to colleagues, professors and friends, all of them enjoy my stories.

I can study while high like I did last night with a buddy.

I can honestly tell everyone here before pot I was a different person, it has opened me up in ways I never imagined. When I see friends try pot for the first time from all the prejudices they once had they cant believe it. Pot is nothing like alcohol or any other drug.

You are conscious and aware while high.

Laws will change it will only take time, views are changing but everyone must do their part.

Pot has very bad image problem. If you look at High Times or Grow you will see people who represent us and are nothing like most of us here.

You want to change laws and heads? Try changing people's views slowly and tell the editors at these magazines to smarten up.

Talking about cocaine, ecstasy and mushrooms in the same sentence as pot will not help us. Ive seen this many times in those magazines.

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Welcome Jason and thanks for sharing. I remember reading an article a while back about how High Times was planning on changing their content to include more topics than just marijuana. I assume this would be to reach a wider variety of readers, including non-tokers, to get them interested. But it seems to me like they've gotten a little too far away from promoting marijuana. Now is the time they should be pressing the issue. I haven't read it for a while, so I don't know if this is still true. As far as changing laws and heads, we're working on it!
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Wow, Good points there Jason!

I almost think that marijuana makes me more consious. I wonder how many people trying it for the first time ask that question of why is this illegal?

It would be really cool if you shared those stories here. Always looking for works people have done to use on the front page. Helps to show the world we aren't as worthless as they think.
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Great read Doc. The DaVinci link distracted me for a few hours.

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I started reading this article and clicked on the link for the Di Vinci Code, and I spent an hour trying to figure it out...needless to say, I am going to read this book. The links are helpful and they spark your interest is a lot of other stuff....I appreciate them and I think they show that your site is about more then just smoking!

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[zombienote: I dont know the answer to it either. It just looked interesting and I figured others would know.. ][
Must be the first time since highschool Greek was usefull. Found a spoiler just before I came here. I can't just post the spoiler here though, that's wouldn't be fun . Just that link incase someone gets stranded. Oh and a hint: use the Fibonacci Sequence. Cutting all the way to the end is no fun anyways, the quest is what matters.

It is some advertizing for a book, I'm definately gonna read it someday. Right now I'm reading Karen Armstrongs "A history of God, from Abraham to the present: the 4000 year quest for God". I like reading and religion has always intrigued me. I like this quote: "Drug plants preceded even the gods by three ages" from the Rig Veda, 1500-1200 BC

Anyway, I'm stoned ........ great story Doc.
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