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Old 05-02-2004, 02:38 AM   #21
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Default How did this turn into an anti-commie diatribe?

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Especially the part that says in a communist state there is no standing army or POLICE FORCES. Aparantly it was believed once communism took hold all people would ALWAYS do the right thing and there would be no crime and therefore no need for cops. For those people that STILL believe that fairy tale, North Korea is still communist but who would want to live there?!?
I just think this needs clarification. First of all, what goes on North Korea is not "communism." It's full on fascism, more like East Germany than Russia, really (they weren't communists states either, by the way, they just said they were, but the systems in place were not communist. In fact, I have yet to see a true communist state - believe it or not, Canada after WW1 was pretty darn close). Communism has been given a bad name by hysterical capitalists and fasicsts alike. The United States is eerily similar to East Germany right now, but you wouldn't call the situation in the US "communist" would you? Secondly, you may be thinking of the "anarchy" system when it comes to abolishing law enforcement entirely.

In reagrds to the DEA agent, I'm just glad nobody in the room got hurt. A mixed blessing it may be - now that these kids have seen what guns can really do it's less likely they'll ever try to mess with one.

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Old 05-02-2004, 02:50 AM   #22
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Wonderful Jose...............but where does that say the agent was on duty or acting in her official capacity? What disputes what I said?


You know as well as I do that a cop at any level will be identified as such, regardless of whether or not they are acting in an official capacity.

I've seen guys that washed out of field training, having a whopping total of 3-4 weeks of police expereince being identified by the media as a "ex-cop" 15 years later.
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Old 05-02-2004, 02:55 AM   #23
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Where ya been Jose? I haven't seen you post since the old format! I have missed your writing, good to see you back.

Thanks for the laugh Doc, I love that Homer pic!

Niteshift, the article quotes a witness describing the agent as 'he', you say she, which is it? Not that it matters, I feel sorry for him/her anyway. That's gotta be the most embarrassing situation for any LEO to suffer through. Hopefully everyone learns something from this stupidity. I don't get why they were teaching children gun safety anyway. They should be taught to stay away from guns and guns should be kept away from children, they shouldn't be taught how to handle them. I don't get what guns have to do with golf either. Perhaps they will stick to teaching the children golf now like they should have been.
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Old 05-02-2004, 02:58 AM   #24
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You're right, it's a he.......Not sure why I said that. The conversation with my buddy in Orange County identified them as "that DEA knucklehead".


Another thing to point out...........gun safety is redundant. That's why while one safety rule was violated, nobody was hurt because another rule was followed.......always point the gun in a safe direction.
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I'm not trying to nitpick Niteshift, but I assume you mean nobody else? hehe I guess it was just a flesh wound since he returned to work. A hard way to learn a lesson though. Isn't it possible that teaching children gun safety will only make some more interested in guns? Telling some people like me not to do something makes me want to find out for myself ''why not?''. Introducing guns to children mike make them more curious about them. Doesn't matter how well anyone is taught obviously, accidents can happen. It makes more sense to me to just keep them away from children.
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Old 05-02-2004, 03:25 AM   #26
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I'm not trying to nitpick Niteshift, but I assume you mean nobody else? hehe I guess it was just a flesh wound since he returned to work. A hard way to learn a lesson though. Isn't it possible that teaching children gun safety will only make some more interested in guns? Telling some people like me not to do something makes me want to find out for myself ''why not?''. Introducing guns to children mike make them more curious about them. Doesn't matter how well anyone is taught obviously, accidents can happen. It makes more sense to me to just keep them away from children.

This agent was an idiot. I have given multiple firearms safety classes. Never have I started a beginers class with a loaded weapon. I hope this idiot looses his job.

Teaching gun safety may indeed make a child more interested in guns. Just as teaching safe sex makes a child more interested in sex. Both are important for a child to learn about.

You have no control over the events that might some day involve your child. It is better, in my opinion, that they face those events as prepared as possible. The vast majority of accidents involving children and guns could have been prevented with knowledge.
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Isn't it possible that teaching children gun safety will only make some more interested in guns?
OH MY GOODNESS... I wonder if anyone has ever thought of that arguemnt before?

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Telling some people like me not to do something makes me want to find out for myself ''why not?''.
Why you little rascal you.

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Introducing guns to children mike make them more curious about them. Doesn't matter how well anyone is taught obviously, accidents can happen. It makes more sense to me to just keep them away from children.
Oh my goodness...

What if we taught them Sex Ed? ( oh contemplate those accidents ...or ...about (gasp...D.A.R.E. I say it?) MARIJUANA!!!


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Gee. Things that make you go, hmmmm.....
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I don't really agree with comparing sex ed with teaching children about guns. I'd say close to 100% of all children will have sex at some point in their futures. A much lower pecrcentage will have contact with a firearm. I think children that live in homes where there are firearms should be taught about the dangers of firearms. Children can be taught about the dangers of firearms without the firearms actually being present. Guns don't belong in schools. I think sex-ed is a hell of a lot more necessary to be taught in school than gun handling. I think children that need to be taught about firearm safety should be taught individually so they are paying more attention than in a class full of students.
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