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Yesterday, I recieved a PM from a concerned reader about her boyfriends occasional use of marijuana. I include her letter, my response, and her reply back for you to ponder and comment on. This is a great opportunity to help one person overcome the effects of the governments slanderous campaign against this fairly harmless herbal intoxicant.

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Hi Logos,
I read your posted messages. You sound like a kind and intelligent man. You also smoke marijuana. These are the reasons why I am writing to you. I need your opinion. I would really appreciate it. Here's my situation. My boyfriend who I love with all of my heart smokes pot once every week or every other week. So, I wouldn't say he is a frequent user. I never have smoked pot. All the images and things that have been said about pot that I have seen over the years have been negative. It also scares me to think that he has no control over his mind. Further, it scares me that he could develop cancer. I love him with all of my heart. We have compromised on this issue. He doesn't smoke it around me and doesn't allow anyone else to in his house. I just don't understand why this is still bugging me. Maybe you can shed some light for me. I hope. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Janine

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Hi, Thanks for writing, I'm not sure just how much I can help, I know that cannabis won't cause cancer, and it won't make someone loose their mind. If anything it probably protects against cancer, and helps one regain their mind.

The level of propaganda that the government has issued forth for the last 70 years just amazes me. There are numerous bits of science available regarding the use of the cannabis plant.

The hard part is in giving you enough information that you believe what I'm telling you is true. I don't expect you to simply believe me. The information is out there, and it isn't super easy to find. We have a lot of talented readers who frequent our site who know more about the questions you seek answers for.

What I would like to do is post your question for them to answer, I don't have to reveal who asked the question, and if you were to respond to them, you could do it as a guest if you prefer the anonyminity. Though being registered for an account only reveals the information that you entered into it when you set p the account.

It is good that he regulates his use of it, I wouldn't worry too much about it unless problems arrise from the use. It is probably quite theraputic for him to be able to truly relax once a week. He won't get crazy, and it won't kill him early. If anything, it will make him more sane, and keep him healthier in the long run.

I'm curious what the source of the information you have recieved on the subject of cannabis. Where did your opinion of it come from? Always question your source. I have nothing to gain by lying, but it is also possible that I'm not telling the truth. There is no way for you to honestly know.

Let me know if you would like this question to be answered by more people than just me, others may have much better information for you than I have presented here.

I gurantee your complete anonyminity if you prefer. I'll even relay messages for you if you want.

My only intent here is to get you the information you desire.

I'll consider it my good deed for the day..

Logos

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Hi Logos,
Thank you for replying to my message. I am just worried about him. I have never dated anyone who has smoked pot before because growing up the media, family, school was always saying how bad it was. You know, the anti-drug campaigns. Well, it has also bothered me because I have seen what it has done to my cousins. They are worthless pot heads who do not contribute anything to society. They don't have jobs and mooch off of others. Well, I know that this isn't true about him. He goes to work, pays his bills, saves his money, and he is responsible. I have tried to figure out why this bothers me so much. I am just not sure. There is some idea in my mind of him getting blotto which disturbes and scares me. He may not get blotto when he smokes it. I don't know. I asked him not to do it around me. But, maybe I should let him. Maybe if I see that he is okay then I wont be so worried. Also, another issue is that I did ask him to stop. He didn't say he would or wouldn't. He did say that someone day he would. He said he wouldn't do it around our kids. But, I don't know. The whole thing just worries me to death for some reason. He says the pot is insignificant. That is isn't something to make into a big issue. Maybe it's not, but I can't help feeling this way. And I don't know how to change the way I feel. Oh, about your question. Well, I typed in marijuana on aol and it did a google search. I just looked at the first few links. The first one was from the World Book Encyclopedia. Also, I don't mind that you post my message. You don't have to keep it private. I doubt there is anyone on here who would recognize me anyhow!! I am sorry that I am rambling on, but this issue has really been bothering me. I just need some reassurance. Thank you for your help. I really do appreciate it.

Sincerely,
Janine

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I'd also like to offer up an article from the old site that seems appropriate at this point. It was one of the most popular articles we have ever posted. Don't let the title fool you. How marijuana ruined my life

Logos

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ziggeh

Ok first of all there are two types of propoganda, the stoners and the government.

Logos said: Marijuana does not cause cancer,
that statement is wrong. You are burning plant material by combustion which release carcinogens (cancer causing chemicals). Will Janine's boyfriend get cancer? No. Simply because he smokes 2-4 times a month equals ABOUT 1 pack of cigarettes a month. Anyone who smokes 1 pack of cigarettes a month will not get cancer for a LONG time.

Logos said: Marijuana does not make you lose your mind
that statement is also wrong. If your boyfriend has a latent psychological illness (1% chance) then cannabis or other drugs can bring it forward. (example: schizophrenia)

Logos said: Marijuana makes you healthier. No. I've been smoking a while now and I can tell that I dont have the endurance for physical activity that I used to. I used to be able to run 1 mile without breaking a sweat, now I need to push myself to get there.

Other than that, marijuana is harmless. I dont see any problem with his use of marijuana, nor do I see any reason to be worried.

The best thing to do is let him smoke in front of you, talk to him, and find out for yourself that it doesnt make him a braindead mindless idiot like the government says.

Be careful though, this website is just as bad as the government propoganda when it comes to the RIGHT information.

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melanotaenia

Well, first of all, I think it is horrible to ask someone to stop smoking pot, because it should be someone's choice to do it or not, I know for a fact that any girl who asked me to stop smoking would find their way to the door real quick, no one can tell me how to live my life, and I don't think he is going to allow it either. I also think that his girlfriend has been brainwashed by the media, hence her referring to the anti drug campaigns in her respons to you Logos. Much of the information I think she has gathered is over-emebelished ideas that are put out by the commercials and such. And in terms of her friends being moochers and such, this means nothing, because as she plainly stated, her boyfriend is not that way at all and he also smokes weed, so that idea of a lazy moocher falls short since many of the people on this site are active contributors to society while still enjoying their MJ.

I think she needs to sit down with her boyfriend while he smokes and observe what the MJ really does to him; relaxation, being happier, and generally having a better state of mind. I don't see how any of these things could be characterized as bad or life threatening. If she chooses not to smoke, that is fine; I have friends who choose not to smoke. But that does not mean that these people are going to try and get me to stop smoking, because they know that everyone has the right to do whatever they want. Smoking is something someone does on their own volition, it is not something other people should be regulating. If he is discreet with it and does not smoke around his girlfriend, right there he has already compromised his behaviors. I think to ask him to stop smoking completely is not the way to go.

While I understand that she cannot help feeling the way she does toward MJ, she should not try to push her own beliefs on her boyfriend and she should not take the cases of some of her individual friends as a basis for pot smokers as a whole. And I will tell you one thing, in terms of blotto, does he drink alcohol, and have you ever seen him drunk? I am sure that the term blotto rings true in the instance of alcohol much more than in the case of smoking marijuana. If he enjoys smoking, he should do it. He will not die any eariler, he will not go psycho, and he will continue to be a productive member of society while still enjoying something that was put on this earth for us to enjoy.

Cheers!

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This is great...at last, someone is starting to question the bilge that is pumped out by the government. Congratulations on the attempt to free your mind. The very best place to go for a one-stop info site is the John Kerry web page. It is very large. Many links to studies done by the government(both ours and others) and universities. There is also inteligent ongoing discusions about the War on Americans disguised as the War on Drugs. These are the links to the various volumes.

Vol #1 posts
http://forum.johnkerry.com//index.php?showtopic=525

Vol #2 posts
http://forum.johnkerry.com/index.php?showtopic=8035

Vol #3 posts
http://forum.johnkerry.com/index.php?showtopic=11769

Vol #4 posts
http://forum.johnkerry.com/index.php?showtopic=13683

Vol #5 posts
http://forum.johnkerry.com/index.php?showtopic=19072

Hope this helps

SevenLeafs

Hey Logos, I wanted to post this message here to see if "Janine" could read it. It is my personal experience with weed and I think it is important she reads it, it was a message I posted on another thread in another web page (we were discussing the Drug War), maybe you could relay it to her?

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Ok, this is where I wanted to get with you *name of person*. I didn't want to say this because I do believe that my following statement will affect your view of me (I hope it doesn't) and has affected many people's way of thinking about my ideas, making them biased to their opinions only and not listening to what I have to say. I have smoked and probably will continue to smoke pot (although I have not done so in about 3+ months, although I was smoking every week, about 4-5 times [joints] a week, simply because I wanted to get a job and drug tests are a huge factor in the "job search". I would also like to inform that during this 3+ months of "sobriety" I haven't had any withdrawls in any time and I'm the same person I was before smoking and during smoking). Why will I continue smoking?, you might ask, my answer is simple.

I do like to smoke, it's something I enjoy (for whatever reason it might be), like playing guitar and programming (although I'm not a programmer yet), which are things I also enjoy immensely. I have found that people that don't smoke and that are of the opinion that it is bad for you (mentaly) only listen to the "facts" that say what they agree with (as in "marijuana is bad for you, it should never be legalized, etc., etc.) becoming "biased" themselves, as you have already stated *name of person*, and not opening themselves to the posibility that what they believe is untrue and misinterpreting things because of the informer's "agenda".

I also was of the opinion that marijuana was very bad for you, that it destroyed your brain and that it would make you stupid/dumb, I am glad I changed my mind (not because I smoke, but because I learned something very important: things aren't always what they seem; I also began to study deeply into the matter and found out that Hemp was one of the most beneficial plants on the Earth). All this started when I first saw one of my cousins smoking in front of me. It was really a shock to me (because of what I thought) and I was a little preocuppied at first, but after the night passed and I saw what the effects of its use were and mainly how my cousin behaved in the following days, I thought to myself: "hey! what's the big deal about this?". Then, as my analitical mind always urges me to do, I started to investigate (as I mentioned earlier) about this "oh so harmful drug" and came to stunning results.

While one party (let's call them "anti")(the government, anti-marijuana activist, etc.) stated that the drug was incredibly harmful, it never EVER showed any real proof. All the test reffered to by these people were very general or, in the case of other reports, missed information or any other thing. My point is, the information given out by these people was always very hard to believe, everything I read could be asked many questions (i.e. Where the people involved in the test marijuana ONLY users? did the test involve a control? who are the scientists that performed such tests? when were the tests performed? etc.) and I found that I couldn't quite openly support that information or believe in it.

Then I wanted to see the other point of view (let's call them stoners, for everyone knows what this means). I began to look for information that came from the people that supported marijuana legalization and why they wanted it so and wow! I found out many things. First I came to understand the importance of the Hemp plant and what benefits it could bring to us (i.e. durable clothes, paper, oil....). This alone got me thinking "why doesn't the other information (the anti's) I have read talk about this?" "it can still be illegal to smoke it, but hey! take advantage of this!". That's when I started doubting about the first source, about the "anti's" info. I kept on reading to find out that many of the "stoner's" articles had a great deal of info and it was almost all backed up by some doctor, scientist or profesional of some sort. Then I said to myself "wait a second, if marijuana makes you that stupid, then why do these people have all these degrees?". *More reading and more reading*, I couldn't stop reading everything that came to me from either side and I still couldn't find anything that made me say "ok, so this is what I have decided". No information could make me arrive at a conclusion I could believe in, because, as you say *name of person*, everything seemed to be biased (and if you haven't noticed that by now, I suggest that you open your eyes), so I made a drastic decision.

I was again with my cousin (the one who smoked pot) and again he lit up one joint. I started to feel anxious, I didn't know if I could go through with what I was about to do because there was something inside me that said "but what if it's all true? what if you end up hooked to this thing eating your brain with every puff?". I was terrified, but on that moment I decided that if I didn't go through with this I would never now what the truth was and I would, probably, be living in a world full of lies and deceit until the sad day of my death. So I did go through with it, I grabbed the joint and took a couple of puffs and got high for the first time in my life. It was a strange experience, but since that day I have vowed to teach people everything I know (about everything) the best way I can, because I couldn't believe that because of a lie people were destroying so many lives (i.e. drug users buy from narc dealers; dealers support guerilla; things like 9/11 happen).

To my relief, I didn't get "hooked" on the drug. After that first use of marijuana I spent one year without ever smoking it again. I did, on the other hand, spend many hours searching for information because I wanted to know if it really destroyed your brain (although I didn't even feel a slight headache the next day, in contrast to alcohol, which is legal, which does give you a headache the next day, or even the same day, after you get drunk). In my search I found out that THC, the main component in marijuana, kind of "tickles" the brain, activating some receptors in it that make you feel "high", but does not destroy them. The only evidence that I found of any damage was to the lungs (off course, the smoke damages your lungs), but none to the brain. Every study I read "implied" that it decreased memory storage and reaction time, but it never said "it detroys neurons and cells in your brain". So I didn't really care if I used it again (because I was a cigarrette smoker at the time, WAS).

I did use it again, as I stated earlier, and until today I have been a perfectly healthy (mentally speaking, although pulmonary speaking also) person, and I don't have any problems remembering things or coordinating my movements or (as you can see) expressing my ideas and opinions (I'm reffering when not under the influence, off course, although some far out ideas do come to mind when under the influence ). I have however stopped smoking cigarrettes ("off course!" you might say "but you are still smoking", which is very true) AND I have reduced CONSIDERABLY the alcohol intake (because I do not want my brain screwed up by that hellish beverage), however, I still drink a couple of beers once in a while (and that is if I go out with friends or there's a special occasion).

This is MY experience, and I really think people should educate themselves a little bit more before reaching a conclusion. I also have one upsetting thought in my mind, and that is that if information as important as marijuana being bad or not is hidden from the public, then we cannot make those important and decisive conclusions that we need to make for our world to develop in a real productive way (for example, the Hemp plant). And as for marijuana leading to other hard substances, well, I have never wanted or will want to try or use any other drugs, for there is evidence enough (for me) that they can ruin your life very easily, if there is anyone who KNOWS the contrary, please let me know, I AM willing to hear what other people say. Also, concerning the topic that many people believe that harder marijuana leads to more use of marijuana, it's absolutely FALSE! Stoners (like myself) tend to stop smoking right after marijuana has made you high, in some cases leading to not even finishing the joint. I guess you can say this: the harder the marijuana is, the less you smoke and less damage you do to your lungs.

Mind you, I'm not inciting anyone to do the same as I did, I'm simply posting my honest opinion about a subject that I think is misinterpreted in most of the world today. In the Netherlands, for example, people took the iniciative to legalize marijuana and I dare you to tell me that the situation there is unbearable, that crimes are at an all time high and/or that harder drug abuse has increased.

I do hope you take me seriously, I have nothing against anyone, and as I said before...

...PLEASE keep your eyes open and your mind sharp

Take good care.

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Mamabudz

I invite Janine to visit the Health & Medical Forum where we have information from many well recognized and respected sources worldwide on Marijuana, it's use, effect on the brain, mental health, pregnancy, cancer risks and other topics of interest.

...have a cookie

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psthbng

SevenLeafs: Well written. Spelling may suk a little but, the action/reaction expressed sounds awfully familiar. Pot 4 Peace

Pufnstuf

She may want to check out Erowids entire site. They are as thorough as you can get. (I'm not sure if this is allowed on this site but I'll put it up here and see what happens)

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/

Also, ask her if she prefers her boyfriend to drink on a daily or weekly basis and to research the effects that has on ones health. Heck, she may be a drinker as well. Nothing like having a few drinks and catching a good buzz down at the bar and then bashing marijuana users while driving home drunk. I'm sure a few lawmakers have discussed the evils of pot at their favorite local bar while getting soused.

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SevenLeafs

Thank you, and about the spelling, I know it "suk(s) a little bit" but I wanted to post it exactly as I posted it on the other forum (with few changes like "*name of person*"). It was a message I didn't really check for spelling because I wrote it passionately and very quickly (considering the circumstance) in response to another post.

Thanks again for the compliments

richpull

I am a college student and I have just completed my last final for my freshman year. 35 Credits in an intense curriculum; Calculus, Honors Psychology and Honors English II to name a few classes. I have also been a strong participant in extra-curricular activities and I tutor other writing students at the college. I have a 4.0 Grade Point Average. I smoke pot regularly.
The conception that marijuana makes you less able to think and to understand is totally flawed. In fact, the theraputic and relaxing aspects of being high on marijuana make me better able to handle stressful situations. What makes pot safe is that I am able to cessate use for any period of time without deleterious effects.
It is worth mentioning that some people lack the innate self-control to use marijuana effectively. Similarly, those people lack the self-control to be sucessful people regardless of drug use.
Janine, if your boyfriend uses pot recreationally and with self-control so that it does not affect his life or yours then you should not worry about his decision. If you come to terms with his decision remember that it is your decision as to whether or not you want to smoke along with him. Good luck!