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Old 10-06-2004, 09:20 AM   #1
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South Plymouth Task Force Gets Grant

By JENNET TEBARNES |South Coast Today.com | October 6, 2004.

Police investigators in Lakeville, Rochester and Middleboro have received a $12,000 state grant for drug enforcement.

The three towns make up the South Plymouth County Task Force, which was responsible for the July arrest of a man accused of selling cocaine to campers at Knight and Look Campground in Rochester.

The task force focuses primarily, but not exclusively, on narcotics work.
Lakeville Police Chief Mark Sorel said money from the grant will be used to pay overtime salaries for investigations, to buy equipment and to provide "buy money" for undercover drug investigations.

Bellatrix; holy SH*T, these assholes are actually making the American taxpayer pay for their BRIBES and SNITCHES?? And how is this money accounted for? Is it ever? Your tax dollars at work, people. Isn't this how crap like Tulia happens?

All three towns collaborated on the competitive grant offered to multi-jurisdictional task forces such as theirs, Rochester Police Chief Paul H. Magee said in a press release.

In the Knight and Look investigation, officers from the task force posed as campers and bought cocaine from John P. Houghton Jr. of New Bedford as the man made his nightly security rounds on a golf cart, according to police records.

At the campground, the officers reported the odor of burning Marijuana coming from another campsite and arrested four New Bedford residents for possession.

Bellatrix; and article about crooked cops wouldn't be complete without the "I smell burning Marijuana" line. I thought they didn't arresst people for possession. What a bunch of assholes - posing as campers to harass some harmless jerk who happens to be selling something that people want to buy. I wonder how much property crime went down while these pricks were wasting their time playing Yogi and Bubu. And the government rewards them handsomely for their efforts. Buy money? Yeah, I think we all know what's really getting bought here.
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Old 10-06-2004, 05:26 PM   #2
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holy SH*T, these assholes are actually making the American taxpayer pay for their BRIBES and SNITCHES?? And how is this money accounted for? Is it ever? Your tax dollars at work, people. Isn't this how crap like Tulia happens?
Wait a minute! The article neither states nor infers anything about bribes or snitches. Are you just making this up off the top of your head? Let's leave that kind of tactic to the opposition. We don't need to bend the truth to support our side.


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and article about crooked cops wouldn't be complete without the "I smell burning Marijuana" line.
What crooked cops? I think the War on Marijuana is total bull**** but these cops were just doing their job. The article neither states nor infers anything about police corruption.


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I thought they didn't arresst people for possession.
Then why are 85% of the people in jail on drug charges in for possession? One of the arguments for the legalization of Marijuana is that a huge number of the people being harassed are doing nothing more heinous than being in possession of a small amount of weed.


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What a bunch of assholes - posing as campers to harass some harmless jerk who happens to be selling something that people want to buy.
According to the article, the cops were undercover to bust a guy selling cocaine, not Marijuana. The Marijuana bust just sort of happened because they smelled burning pot. Cocaine is a dangerous drug. I've seen friends' lives ruined and ended by cocaine abuse. If I'm not mistaken, the policy of this website is not to promote the use or legalization of any drug other than Marijuana and its derivatives. Am I wrong?
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Old 10-06-2004, 08:04 PM   #3
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Wait a minute! The article neither states nor infers anything about bribes or snitches. Are you just making this up off the top of your head? Let's leave that kind of tactic to the opposition. We don't need to bend the truth to support our side.
Well, sorry, but that's what "buy money" IS. If you happen to have a different explanation, then do share it.

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What crooked cops? I think the War on Marijuana is total bull**** but these cops were just doing their job. The article neither states nor infers anything about police corruption.
Anybody who takes money from the government to stop people from excercising their rights is corrupt, and that goes double for someone who has been given a place of power and a weapon to back it up (oh yeah, by the same people that pay them - YOU). Don't give me this "the cops are just doing their jobs" garbage. Nobody will defend prohibition faster than a cop, no matter how sick and stupid and hypocritical they KNOW it to be. No drug war, no buy money. Did you miss my comment about REAL crimes being committed while these cops were wasting their time and your money?

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Then why are 85% of the people in jail on drug charges in for possession? One of the arguments for the legalization of Marijuana is that a huge number of the people being harassed are doing nothing more heinous than being in possession of a small amount of weed.
DUH! How did you think I got to be news admin on mj.com without figuring that out? Every time some prohibitionist gets on tv and is confronted with that very statistic, they will a) deny it, or b) defend it by saying that all of those people were dealers, because "we don't arrest people for simple possession." I was using a figure of speech known as sarcasm. It's a useful tool, look it up.

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According to the article, the cops were undercover to bust a guy selling cocaine, not Marijuana. The Marijuana bust just sort of happened because they smelled burning pot. Cocaine is a dangerous drug. I've seen friends' lives ruined and ended by cocaine abuse.
And therefore? Sorry pal, but your friends were adults. You may not like the decisions that they made, but you still have to respect their right to make those decisions. Furthermore, you have no right to make that decision for anyone else. I have friends who are casual cocaine users and they are happy, well-adjusted, productive people.

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If I'm not mistaken, the policy of this website is not to promote the use or legalization of any drug other than Marijuana and its derivatives. Am I wrong?
Well, no, you aren't wrong, but if you think that we can talk about Marijuana prohibition without talking about other drugs then I'm afraid you are quite mistaken. This article, and the cops in it, see no difference between Marijuana and cocaine. This is one of the most tragic consequences of prohibition and yet another way that law enforcement and the media continue to demonize the kind herb.
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Well, sorry, but that's what "buy money" IS. If you happen to have a different explanation, then do share it.
Happy to.

They use the money gathered to "buy" the merchandise. For instance when they set up a "buy" for a pound of Marijuana, they need to show up with enough funds to cover the "buy". Hence, "buy money".
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Don't give me this "the cops are just doing their jobs" garbage. Nobody will defend prohibition faster than a cop, no matter how sick and stupid and hypocritical they KNOW it to be. No drug war, no buy money.
Your generalizations and apparent (to me) bias against law enforcement is disappointing in a News Admin, imho.
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I was using a figure of speech known as sarcasm. It's a useful tool, look it up.
And another great example of sarcasm...or rudeness.

Buzzby, from what I have discerned, the front page is a bit laxer because of the inclusion of other drugs in Marijuana stories...
Also speaking personally, you are not alone in seeing a pattern to Bellatrix's postings...
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Well, sorry, but that's what "buy money" IS. If you happen to have a different explanation, then do share it.
Buy money is money set aside to buy drugs in a sting operation, hence the name "buy money".


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Anybody who takes money from the government to stop people from excercising their rights is corrupt
That may be the case on your planet, but in the United States of America you do not have a right to break the law. The very idea is ludicrous. Marijuana should not be illegal because the harm that comes out of prohibition greatly outweighs any good it might do by keeping people from getting messed up on drugs. Rights are very specific kinds of things. All high court tests on drugs laws have held that they are constitutional. Just because you'd like to be able to legally smoke pot doesn't make it your right.


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Don't give me this "the cops are just doing their jobs" garbage. Nobody will defend prohibition faster than a cop
Completely irrelevant. Some cops are anti-prohibition but they still have to do their jobs. I, for one, would not want to live in a world without laws and LEOs to enforce them. Your outrage is getting old, childish, and tired. We need ideas that work in the real world to get rid of Marijuana prohibition.


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How did you think I got to be news admin on mj.com without figuring that out?
I've wondered about that. You don't seem to support the basic principals that are behind this site, so why are you in a position to dictate its content?

One of those principals is that we're never going to get Marijuana legalized if we go around spouting off about legalizing all drugs. If you do so, the only people who'll listen to you are those who already agree with you. I recognize that there's a lot of ego satisfaction in spouting off but it's counterproductive.


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Well, no, you aren't wrong, but if you think that we can talk about Marijuana prohibition without talking about other drugs then I'm afraid you are quite mistaken.
The agreement here is that we will not do that. If that doesn't suit you there are a lot of Libertarian web sites that would welcome your opinions. This site is about getting Marijuana legalized.
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