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Old 01-24-2005, 09:20 AM   #1
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Default AK: Governor moves to change pot law

Governor moves to change pot law
January 22, 2005 | adn.com | By SEAN COCKERHAM

JUNEAU -- Gov. Frank Murkowski on Friday asked the Legislature to overrule a court ruling that adult Alaskans have the right to possess marijuana for personal use in their homes.

Murkowski introduced a bill that challenges the state court's ruling and that would significantly tighten other state marijuana laws -- making a lot more pot crimes into felonies.

"The Legislature finds that marijuana poses a threat to the public health that justifies prohibiting its use in this state, even by adults in private," the bill declares.

Everyone expects the fight to go back to the courts if the Legislature passes the bill. The ruling that made at-home pot possession of up to four ounces legal for personal use was based on the right to privacy in the state constitution.

The Legislature cannot change the constitution without a statewide vote. But the governor hopes the bill and hearings over it will show the courts that pot is a lot more powerful than it used to be and that the state has an overriding interest in forbidding it.

William Satterberg, the Fairbanks lawyer who argued the case that toppled the state prohibition on at-home pot, said he doesn't think the courts will backtrack.

"Unconstitutional still remains unconstitutional no matter what the Legislature thinks," Satterberg said.

The Alaska Supreme Court in September let stand a lower court ruling last year that adult Alaskans have the right to possess up to four ounces of marijuana in their homes for personal use. The lower court based its opinion on a 1975 decision, known as Ravin v. State, which declared the strong right to privacy from government interference that is guaranteed under the Alaska Constitution outweighed any social harm that might be caused by the small at-home use of marijuana by adults.

Ravin remained the law in Alaska until 1990, when voters passed an initiative outlawing all amounts of marijuana. But last year's court ruling said a constitutionally protected right -- in this case at-home pot -- cannot be taken away by an initiative.

Murkowski argues that marijuana is a lot stronger and more harmful nowadays than in 1975 when the courts said the right to privacy outweighed the social harm. The governor said the bill he introduced Friday will help the state make it clear to the courts that this is the case.

"The bill would provide a forum for the Legislature to hear expert testimony on the effects of marijuana and to make findings that the courts can rely on," the governor said in a letter to lawmakers.

Rep. Norm Rokeberg, R-Anchorage and a member of the House leadership, said the court overruled the will of the Legislature and Alaska voters when it declared some at-home use of marijuana to be legal. He said he expects the Legislature will be interested in taking a good look at Murkowski's bill.

The bill would also make possession of more than four ounces of pot a felony. The felony cutoff under current law is a pound. The bill would also make it a felony to give or sell any marijuana to anyone under the age of 21.

The Alaska public defender's agency said it would need another $160,000 a year in state funds to meet its increased workload under the bill.

"We handle 500 misdemeanor drug cases, primarily involving marijuana," the agency said in a written statement. "At least half of these would become felonies. Felonies take more work than misdemeanors."
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Old 01-24-2005, 10:55 AM   #2
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Ravin remained the law in Alaska until 1990, when voters passed an initiative outlawing all amounts of marijuana. But last year's court ruling said a constitutionally protected right -- in this case at-home pot -- cannot be taken away by an initiative.
so a law cant change that ruling either, because
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Unconstitutional still remains unconstitutional no matter what the Legislature thinks
this should be a done issue before it even gets started.
but this is a scary part:
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"The bill would provide a forum for the Legislature to hear expert testimony on the effects of marijuana and to make findings that the courts can rely on," the governor said in a letter to lawmakers.
hmm, 'experts'. from a governor who wants to recriminalize any possession of mj. those sound like great 'experts' to me. (i hope they tell her the truth)
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Old 01-24-2005, 01:56 PM   #3
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Old 01-24-2005, 02:04 PM   #4
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Default Imagine that, a capital R Republican against cannabis

Now it is clear that this governor is a capital R Republican (meaning he is a hack for the Republican party, a party that is for big government meddling in our lives).

I thought most republicans in AK (Alabama is AL) were small r republicans, you know, the kind that want a small government because they trust people to run their own lives and are generally distrustful of government.

In my opinion most small r republicans still remember what tyranny of the majority is.

The gov. is a big R Republican because he professes that the majority has the right to discriminate against the minority, nay, that the majority has the right to VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF THE MINORITY.

I wish these big R Republicans would just form the "Big Business, Big Prison system" political party and let the small r republicans reclaim their party.
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Old 01-24-2005, 02:31 PM   #5
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I with these big R Republicans would just form the "Big Business, Big Prison system" political party and let the small r republicans reclaim their party.
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Old 01-24-2005, 02:41 PM   #6
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Just a note -- the abbreviation for Alaska is AK, not AL -- might want to edit the title of this thread.

I looked at the thread title and thought, woah! Alabama is actually moving towards legalization already? Our movement has even reached the deep south red states, incredible!! >=)
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Just a note -- the abbreviation for Alaska is AK, not AL -- might want to edit the title of this thread.

I looked at the thread title and thought, woah! Alabama is actually moving towards legalization already? Our movement has even reached the deep south red states, incredible!! >=)
Doh , I keep getting the state codes mixed up, even when I refer to the list.
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Doh , I keep getting the state codes mixed up, even when I refer to the list.
It's cuz you Canadians are always toking all that high-grade BC bud. Your poor short term memory can't keep the info stored between looking at the state list and typing the thread title.

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Murkowski argues that marijuana is a lot stronger and more harmful nowadays than in 1975 when the courts said the right to privacy outweighed the social harm.

When is this statement going to end? I get sick and tired of hearing them use the pot today is stronger than it was back when your parents used to smoke it etc. Like it really matters, let the people who smoke it worry about that, it's our life. How about alcohol, compare the potency of a beer to 151 rum lol. Pot has been used for over 3000 years, they are trying to say that pot was never potent? Did they go to other countries like some of the tropics such as panama, colombia and test the THC from pure sativas. Course not, they only tested THC in low grade shwag from 30-40 years ago.

Some of the pot from back then, if they bothered to test all of the strains, some of them can probably equal the potency of BC bud or be close to it.

What is funny about this is they are trying to tell adults what is good and bad for us and trying to control everything haha. Excuse my language but if any of us wants to smoke a f*ckin joint in the privacy of our own homes we shouldn't need anyones approval. I'm also sick of hearing republicans say only democrates or liberals smoke pot when in fact it was said that 83% of the U.S is for legalization and 17% are against it. Aren't there more than 17% of republicans in this country? I mean for them to make statements like that saying that anyone else but a republican uses it therefore only 17% would be republican but that's obviously wrong and it's also obvious that they make up for the 83% that are for it's use.

This governor probably ran out of answers to real problems or somethin and all of a sudden decides to target the marijuana issue to make it look like he can still do his job!

Even the most potent grass never killed anyone unlike legal prescription drugs like vioxx which is responsible for putting 100,000 Americans into the ground. Where was this guy and all these other politicians when something like that got put on the market, one guy who worked for the drug company was interviewed and said he was against marketing it but everyone else had $ signs in their heads and harrassed him and ignored him on his thoughts of it being unsafe. Here we are again though talking about the dangers of smoking marijuana!

Doesn't this guy have more important things to worry about than people smoking grass in the privacy of their own homes. This guy wants to make 4 ounces a felony again. That's right let wife beaters, rapists, and convicted sex offenders out sooner to make room for people using marijuana, hows that protecting society? It's possible for states to completely ban alcohol, but i would never wanna see that happen cause hell i like to drink every now and then but i just don't drive. We all know though every state has a problem with people getting drunk and getting behind the wheel or committing violence but we look the other way on alcohol use which we should because there are still some responsible people. The point to this is we smoke marijuana but never go into a rage and not everyone drives stoned but legal or not people are always going to. There is no possible way for this governor to even say marijuana is a threat to society except for admitting prohibition makes it that way.

This issue should not even be brought up again, it should be over and done with but for some reason people like this governor look to the past and don't move forward.
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It's cuz you Canadians are always toking all that high-grade BC bud. Your poor short term memory can't keep the info stored between looking at the state list and typing the thread title.

Mwahhaha

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More like, US states were never covered in my school, well, that I remember.

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