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Old 04-28-2005, 05:59 AM   #21
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"He was found at the crash scene with marijuana in his pocket.46"

They did not mention if he had it in his blood or not.
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Old 04-28-2005, 06:04 AM   #22
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I find that marijuana has caused no brain damage whatsoever to some of my friends. Hell some of my friends function at school better on it. I think the only reason they associate it with brain damage is because kids often become neglectful of all work. Like there are plenty of kids at my school that smoke pot, and they are "hardcore" stoners. They don't do their schoolwork or anything. But from what I hear them talking about on the bus sometimes they can be smart. I think they are just neglectful of homework. I am a geek and I often admit it, but I still smoke pot, it relaxes me and yeah it relaxes me haha. I had in grade 10 a 3.5 gpa (not so good but I am going to be working my ass of in grade 11, I slacked in grade 10 and I admit it.
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Old 04-28-2005, 07:17 AM   #23
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Default This ar-tickle has a familiar flavor...

Why didn't the girl just attempt to have sex with a "negro" "jazz musician"? If only she had followed Harry's script, instead of foolishly following Johnny Pee's... maybe she'd still be alive!

The sad thing is, stupid people still fall for this sh!te.
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Old 04-28-2005, 08:24 AM   #24
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In addition to the massive amounts of bullwipe that has already be debunked....

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Marijuana smoke also contains 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke and produces high levels of an enzyme that converts certain hydrocarbons into malignant cells
They did a study once. They rubbed the tabacco from normal cigs onto the skin of rats. Within a relativly short period of time, the rats developed skin cancer.

Now i think im going to be the first to volunteer to rub bud all over myself. If i live ive proved that evil woman wrong and if i get cancer.....well who cares, ill be floating in a tub of pot.

But also lets just step back and have a good long thought. Cigarettes have actual carcinogenic chemicals in them. Man made chemicals that have been proven to cause cancer much morso than almost anything occuring naturally. To suggest that marijuana, a natural plant, is more carcinogenic than actual carcinogens is......just quite simply sad.

I weep for humanity
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Old 04-28-2005, 08:43 AM   #25
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Skytripper,

Do you really think posts such as the one above are going to HELP the legalization movement in any concivable way? Saying that shooting politicians is the best solution is hardly a convincing argument. Such radical rethoric isn't moving our cause any closer to reality. Remember, although its the ploicians that have the power,, we're the ones who elect these people and put them in office, basically giving them the power. Maybe, just maybe, our goal would be reached sooner if instead of threatening to line them up and shoot them repreatedly, we actually took the time to find good candidates, and then workl our asses off trying to get them elected. The governemnt has power, yes, but its a power given to it by the people. Maybe, that would do more good then accusing every politician of being a lying bastard who enjoys drunk driving. I mean, your stereotypes are no worse than those they use to describe US. Why sink to their level in a war of words, when there is action to be taken that can lead to real change? I understand that our government makes people angry, myself included. However, threats of violence and reverse sterotyping only make us look pathetic as a group. Why not direct some of that hostile energy into actually doing something productive to further the legalization effort? Or are you just content hoping someone else is going to fight the battle for you, while you rant and rave, and push our agenda back in further with just your attitude?


cscheaf-While I agree that marijuana doesnt cause brain damage, per se(although it does cause tempory changes in the brain). However, simply observing your freinds is hardly an accurate way to come to this conclusion.
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Old 04-28-2005, 08:54 AM   #26
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In addition to the massive amounts of bullwipe that has already be debunked....



They did a study once. They rubbed the tabacco from normal cigs onto the skin of rats. Within a relativly short period of time, the rats developed skin cancer.

Now i think im going to be the first to volunteer to rub bud all over myself. If i live ive proved that evil woman wrong and if i get cancer.....well who cares, ill be floating in a tub of pot.

But also lets just step back and have a good long thought. Cigarettes have actual carcinogenic chemicals in them. Man made chemicals that have been proven to cause cancer much morso than almost anything occuring naturally. To suggest that marijuana, a natural plant, is more carcinogenic than actual carcinogens is......just quite simply sad.

I weep for humanity
I weep for your essay ability ...

Really, you must be sure to add the referneces of wher we can find information when you make statements like these.

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They did a study once. They rubbed the tabacco from normal cigs onto the skin of rats. Within a relativly short period of time, the rats developed skin cancer.
Who are They? Where did the study take place -- in the US or another country, at a University or proviate lab? Who financed it...???

These are important points to the veracity, truthfulness. of your claim and allows the reader to believe your premise.

You may also find that what you have heard second hand "hearsay" it is called, may not be as dark as the actual truth.

An example is your reference to synthesized carcinogenic agents such as Salt Peter that are added to commercial grade tobacco products to keep cigarettes from "going out". The Tobacco industry was aware that this additive caused cancer in humans and
did not infomr the public that the chemical was added. Another addition to cigarettes were increased levels of nicotine to make them more highly addicitive; therefore selling more cigarettes by addiciting a population and knowingly exposing them to the carcinogenic substances it was knowigly adding to the product.

...have a cookie and keep up the good work

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Old 04-28-2005, 01:05 PM   #27
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Default what was in the pill??

was this pill pure MDMA? or was there something else put into it too ????
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Old 04-28-2005, 01:06 PM   #28
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we will never know...as MDMA is not a topic we dicuss around here ...

Nice to see you reggie!
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Old 04-28-2005, 03:51 PM   #29
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Question This article began to tire me at the "harmless" section...

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It doesn't start off talking about the people shot by DEA agents in marijuana raids. It doesn't talk about the medical marijuana patients who are suffering because the DEA took away their medicine. No, it starts off by talking about a kid that they claim died from ecstacy.
Well it caught my attention, because, it shows that just by taking one little pharmaceutically produced pill taken for a high can kill a kid. I was hoping for the article to go on about the dangers of Ecstasy and other hard drugs, but she erroneously blames medical marijuana activists for this Ecstasy death!


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She neglects to point out that Sativex, a medicine derived from marijuana, has recently been approved in Canada. She just points to studies that will support her claims that marijuana isn't medicine and then exaggerates the amount of research our government is doing.
I was shocked at how she made it sound like the US government is fully researching medical marijuana claims. It's as if she is a robot. Has she not heard about Dr. Craker's attempts for an individualized third party non-governmental sponsored study that the DEA continues to block?


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Later in the article she says...and that the claim...is a myth. ...stereotypes...and DEA propaganda. "Marijuana...gateway drug." "Marijuana...harms nonusers."
This is where things start becoming foggy as she starts repeating things that currently are hotly disputed with evidence to the contrary. We read this kind of stuff on marijuana.com almost every day. We know which side she's firmly on, but, the question would be why does she hold these beliefs so dear to her when it is so obvious there is legitimate public dispute.


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She says "Clear the smokescreen by educating the children, parents, teachers, physicians, and legislators in your community before the myths kill any more Irma Perezes or Deasean Hills."
We are already educating children, parents, teachers, physicians and legislators in our communities about the strange political nature of "marijuana" and the message is not to experiment with hard drugs like Ecstasy, at all. The kids shouldn't have been playing with Ecstasy to begin with. But the truth is, to speak in a way similar to hers:

If all they were doing was experimenting with marijuana and not a life-threatening drug like Ecstasy, it is certain no one would have died, Irma Perezes and Deasean Hills could still be alive, and this woman would have had nothing to write about.
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Old 04-28-2005, 04:09 PM   #30
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...neglectful of all work. Like there are plenty of kids at my school that smoke pot, and they are "hardcore" stoners. They don't do their schoolwork or anything. But from what I hear them talking about on the bus sometimes they can be smart. I think they are just neglectful of homework.
HMM But you can't do good in school if the schoolwork isn't done. Maybe they have other careers lined up already for when they get out of school or are planning on getting into the banned substance selling business. Either way, you still have to have a general knowledge and understanding of what most people know out there in the world.


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I am a geek and I often admit it, but I still smoke pot, it relaxes me and yeah it relaxes me haha.
As a geek your lust for knowledge will reward you with great wisdom at some point if you guide your geekiness into the right direction!
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