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Niteshift

So 2 wrongs will make a right?

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BC.Buddy

I completely agree that they make a VERY good point. He did break the law, U.S. law. But it's NOT THAT SIMPLE. They say it is. THat's their observation of the issue. I say it isn't.

And yes, NAFTA has been extremely disregarded for years. And while Canada wins decision after decision, the U.S. tries to pass legislation to allow them to spend all the money that has been building up while the dispute happens.

But wait, you Canadians can't say no to the treaties when it's in the U.S's best interests! That would be absurd!!




Yeah, I guess huh? So where's your argument about a treaty being set in stone, again?

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Niteshift

The treaty should be honored. And if it were for somethign other than Emery and marijuana, you'd think so too. but you are too close to the situation to be the least bit objective.

The notion that the US allegedly broke some other treaty should someone make everything null and void is not very reasonable either.

BC.Buddy

I agree that I am close to this situation, but that does not mean I am not objective. He's not family, nor is Michelle Rainey or Greg Williams.

"...some other treaty should someone make everything null and void..." ???

No, it shouldn't. That's not the point that was made Niteshift. The point is that America has eagerly broken treaties with Canada in the interest of capitalism and protectionism. And you can't see Canada breaking a treaty with America in the interest of their own citizens and what is right.

Point being; stop arguing that it's a mutually signed, binding treaty.

Higher Logic

*scratches head* I thought it was...that's what the treaty clearly states. Alright, all these threads, I guess I'm just getting confused. Can you lay out, clearly, where you stand on this issue and your opinion/feeling lies as a whole?

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lilgrasshoppah

BC.Buddy's position is, "the extradition treaty is a legally-binding treaty, but so what? The U.S. happily ignores all manner of "legally binding" treaties that aren't in their current best interests. Finally, if the U.S. may violate treaties it signed in good faith for no other reason that profit motive, than we certainly have the right... nay, the responsibility... to set aside a treaty that risks cruel and unusual punishment to one of our citizens, and also risks offending the conscience of the people. So it's a specious argument because the U.S. has utter contempt for any treaty, or any international law that disadvantages them."

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Higher Logic

So because the US ignores a treaty, this issue should also follow suit and be ignored too

Zilos

Why play nice if no one else is?

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Buzzby

Very interesting... Breaking a treaty is right. Ignoring the laws is right. Allowing an international drug trafficker to run free is right. One of us has a very strange idea of what is right. And I don't think it's me.

There's also the question of whether abrogating a treaty with the United States is in the best interest of Canada's citizens.

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BC.Buddy

If that's the way you want to twist it, that's fine. Also, notice he's still just an international drug trafficker to Buzzby. Interesting...

Yeah, we hear that threat all the time

In fact, not only is it used from anonymous American citizen to anonymous Canadian citizen in discussion forums, it's also used by American politicians to Canadian politicians with power in the issue. Sad, huh?

Yet, America boldly breaks treaties and puts thousands out of jobs and ruins the lives of hundreds of families. But if Canada were to do it, you know the U.S. would whip us back into shape.

Absolutely pathetic.