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Buzzby · 12-03-2005, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by vladimir

but it does give them the ability (or choice) to enforce whichever set of laws they wish to...

They'll enforce whatever set of laws their bosses tell them to. The Denver city attorney says they will enforce state law. The Chief of Police said that he wouldn't. The outcome of the case that started this thread is going to tell us something, although I expect it will be appealed whatever the outcome.

killer12382 · 12-03-2005, 11:49 PM

So the states don't have to enforce federal laws. Aren't you glad George Wallace didn't know that when it came to federal civil rights laws.

Buzzby · 12-04-2005, 12:19 AM

That's why they had to send in the National Guard: federal law supersedes state law but it's up to the federal government to enforce it.

killer12382 · 12-04-2005, 03:43 AM

I can pretty much guarantee that the states aren't going to feel the same way about marijuana as the southern states felt about civil rights. This is a slam dunk for the states. They'll just say in court that they were enforcing the state marijuana laws and they supercede the local laws. And if that fails, they'll just say they were enforcing the federal laws. Its really a no win situation for those poor souls in Denver who decide to fight their arrests and possible convictions. Oh well.

Buzzby · 12-04-2005, 04:09 AM

I don't know why you have all these pessimistic attitudes in advance of the evidence. The situation you describe hasn't happened with Denver and it hasn't happened with medical marijuana, which would fit into exactly the same scenario. State and local cops are following state medical marijuana laws. Why couldn't Denver police be required to follow Denver pot laws?

As I've said repeatedly, no one knows how this is going to turn out. Mr. Footer has a team of lawyers who think they have a case. You, for some reason, discount that possibility.

cb007sax · 12-05-2005, 10:20 AM

I love denver.

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killer12382 Banned Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 877 Grams: 26.95 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	So the states don't have to enforce federal laws. Aren't you glad George Wallace didn't know that when it came to federal civil rights laws.

12-04-2005, 12:19 AM	#13
Buzzby Buddhist Curmudgeon Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 14,441 Grams: 47,879.23 Groans: 37 Groaned at 49 Times in 41 Posts Thanks: 521 Thanked 3,896 Times in 1,934 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	That's why they had to send in the National Guard: federal law supersedes state law but it's up to the federal government to enforce it.

12-04-2005, 03:43 AM	#14
killer12382 Banned Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 877 Grams: 26.95 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	I can pretty much guarantee that the states aren't going to feel the same way about marijuana as the southern states felt about civil rights. This is a slam dunk for the states. They'll just say in court that they were enforcing the state marijuana laws and they supercede the local laws. And if that fails, they'll just say they were enforcing the federal laws. Its really a no win situation for those poor souls in Denver who decide to fight their arrests and possible convictions. Oh well.

12-04-2005, 04:09 AM	#15
Buzzby Buddhist Curmudgeon Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 14,441 Grams: 47,879.23 Groans: 37 Groaned at 49 Times in 41 Posts Thanks: 521 Thanked 3,896 Times in 1,934 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	I don't know why you have all these pessimistic attitudes in advance of the evidence. The situation you describe hasn't happened with Denver and it hasn't happened with medical marijuana, which would fit into exactly the same scenario. State and local cops are following state medical marijuana laws. Why couldn't Denver police be required to follow Denver pot laws? As I've said repeatedly, no one knows how this is going to turn out. Mr. Footer has a team of lawyers who think they have a case. You, for some reason, discount that possibility.

12-05-2005, 10:20 AM	#16
cb007sax Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 297 Grams: 2,030.20 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 2 Posts Stock Portfolio Total Value: 0.000 Gain/Loss: 0.000%	I love denver.

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