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killer12382

"Advocating putting fellow humans in cages for victimless crimes is abhorent."


Putting people in cages when they violate the law is called punishment. We live by the rule of law. Anything else is anarchy.

 

dedbr

Please save my ass,Oh Canada!"

Just singing that tune for ya, Tolerance.

Deddy

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Liberty4All

killer12382, everything I've read that you've wrote is based on intolerance and stupidity. People like you are the reason that the US is going down the road towards despotism. The law and morality have nothing to do with each other. Laws are passed by politicians who do so based on solidifying their power and control over others. According to your posts, if a corrupt politician passes an immoral law, then we are bound to follow it - otherwise there would be anarchy. First off, anarchy is a lot better than authoritarianism. Secondly, every individual must live by their own standards of morality and should not subjugate themselves to collectivists who don't give a damn about freedom. If slavery was legal, I'm sure you would see nothing wrong with owning slaves. Steve Kubby has indeed had cancer for 20 years, it's a fact. But oh, I'm sure you know better... because you're a doctor who's examined him personally. If you've ever broken the law, I suggest you turn yourself in, otherwise, society would unravel into anarchy.

TheNewGuy

Exactly, so if you break a law, you go to jail regardless of how "immoral" it is. If you want an immoral law removed, you don't flee the country, you fight to change the law.

No it isn't. Anyone with the slightest amount of common sense would understand that anarchy and peace can't coexist. If there was anarchy, nobody would protect you from anybody else.

*not answering for Killer* This isn't a valid argument in this case, because owning a person's life is a tiny bit different than smoking plant matter to achieve an altered state of conciousness.

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dedbr

pictures on it of slave owner's. The founding father's of our country were all slave owner's. Thomas Jefferson had children by a slave owned by him.

What the h*ll does that have to do with the conversation, or Killer's comment's? Meanwhile, back at the conversation...

"Oh Canada, Oh Canada,
Won't you save my Butt, Oh Canada! "

Catchy tune.You can dance to it.

Deddy

 

Liberty4All

I disagree... people all throughout history have fled countries where their rights were being violated. Rather than waste your whole life trying to change a system that is corrupt, it is better to find a place that is relatively free (like Canada). Regarding not fleeing a country, tell that to the Jews in Nazi Germany who fled to save their own lives... would you tell them to stay and try to change the system when it would surely mean death?

Who protects me now? No one. If someone breaks into my house with a gun who's going to protect me? The police? No way... I'd be long dead before they get there. If I want protection, I have to do it myself, meaning owning firearms. I'm not saying I'm in favor of anarchism, but it's a hell of a lot better than having a government control my every action.

You obviously didn't understand what I was saying. I was demonstrating that the law doesn't have anything to do with morality. Sure, if you break the law, you should expect to get punished for it, that's obvious. My problem is people saying someone who breaks the law deserves to be punished. This is complete b.s. When someone makes a statement like they "deserve" to be punished for breaking a particular law, they are implicitly agreeing with that law. If you disagree with a particular law, you should never say someone deserves to be punished for it, even if you expect realistically for people will be punished for it.

killer12382

"I disagree... people all throughout history have fled countries where their rights were being violated."

They're called cowards. They should have stayed and changed the laws BUT NO they ran away like frightened little rabbits.

Larz

Call it whatever you want, it's still abhorent.

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TheNewGuy

Yeah, police must just be here to bust kids and thier whacky tabbaccy.

Nobody protects you right now? Really? Who would defend your right to freedom of speech if there was no government smart guy? Nobody. Without government you would say something to offend someone, the person would be "allowed" basically to shoot you to death, and guess what? Nobody would investigate the matter. Police take murderers off the street every day, and you say nobody is protecting you? Wow.

Let me make factual statement real quick to clear things up: All people who believe anarchy is the way to go are black-clothes wearing pinko-commie manic-depressive ADHD prone emo kids, that think they have amassed enough knowledge in thier 14 years of life to know more than the people who currently run the world.

Anarchy?

Anarchy: #1 Absence of any form of political authority.

There goes your homicide detectives. But hey, who needs them? I'm sure if there was anarchy you would be able to fend off every guy that tried to rape your precious little daughter with your handgun alone. Oh wait, they'd just kill you and do it anyway, because jails wouldn't exist, and there would be no fear of proscecution from a central government.

#2 Political disorder and confusion.

Nobody would even know how to get out of thier damn state, because guess what? The roads would fall into disrepair, and whos going to repair them? The gun-toting bands of murderers who would seize control in a country with complete anarchy? Yep, you'll see those guys paving your roads and keeping your kids safe. Oh wait, you won't because they'll kill you and steal your ammunition.

#3 Absence of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose.

Like the cohesive principle to not kill other people needlessly? There goes everyones sense of morality.

HOORAY ANARCHY! BILLY JOE ARMSTRONG IS MY HERO! HOT TOPIC OWNZ YO!

Mamabudz

My mother has had cancer for over 20 years

We all agree it will take a silver bullet to kill that woman