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Old 01-24-2006, 01:46 AM   #21
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And most libertarians don't support medpot.
You really ought to have some idea what you're talking about before you make such an assertion. Not only do Libertarians favor medical marijuana, they favor an end to all forms of drug prohibition.
I posted a link to the Libertarian Party website that clearly shows that eliminating drug prohibition is a major plank of the Libertarian platform.

End Prohibition

killer responded to this demonstration that he was posting bullsh*t by changing the subject, as if that in some way made his original false statement true:


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There are alot of quirky things in party platforms that each party has that they have no intention of going after.
1) This has nothing to do with whether or not most Libertarians support medical marijuana.
2) The stand on prohibition is a basic part of Libertarian philosophy, not a "quirky thing".


killer than brings up another unrelated issue attempting to support the last one:
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In order for the Libertarian Party to even begin to become a mainstream party they will dump the drug issue.
1) This is an idle speculation stated as a fact.
2) It has nothing to do with whether or not most Libertarians support medical marijuana.


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Haven't you noticed that when you tell people the truth it sure brings the HATE out of them? Buzzby, all that hate will make you sick.
1) I don't hate you. I didn't say anything which a reasonable person would interpret as hateful. I'd have to care about you to hate you. I have no respect for you, but that's an entirely different issue.
2) You didn't tell the truth and when called on it tried to obscure the original issue.
3) You tried to make this about my emotional attitude towards you instead of the fact that you posted a lie and refused to admit it when it was demonstrated to be a lie.
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Old 01-24-2006, 11:53 PM   #22
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Where is your evidence of that?
Just look at the polls. On the same level as the Green party, the nuts who rallied around Ralph Nader and ended up getting GW elected.
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The original issue:

I posted a link to the Libertarian Party website that clearly shows that eliminating drug prohibition is a major plank of the Libertarian platform.

End Prohibition

killer responded to this demonstration that he was posting bullsh*t by changing the subject, as if that in some way made his original false statement true:



1) This has nothing to do with whether or not most Libertarians support medical marijuana.
2) The stand on prohibition is a basic part of Libertarian philosophy, not a "quirky thing".


killer than brings up another unrelated issue attempting to support the last one:

1) This is an idle speculation stated as a fact.
2) It has nothing to do with whether or not most Libertarians support medical marijuana.



1) I don't hate you. I didn't say anything which a reasonable person would interpret as hateful. I'd have to care about you to hate you. I have no respect for you, but that's an entirely different issue.
2) You didn't tell the truth and when called on it tried to obscure the original issue.
3) You tried to make this about my emotional attitude towards you instead of the fact that you posted a lie and refused to admit it when it was demonstrated to be a lie.
It doesn't matter if you hate or love me...its okay really.
Just look at how the american public is voting. It is getting increasingly conservative. The GOP is now the dominant party. The south has gone republican and it appears it will stay that way for quite some time. If the Libertarians approach southern voters with their plan to legalize drugs they will be relegated to "left wing hippy status" and be ignored, even more so than Northeast Liberals.
Is it a fact? Well in politics there really aren't any facts when dealing with politicians now is there?
Now where is that olive branch I bought for this moment? I agree with you 90% of the time. I HOPE the Libertarians can take off and gain some "real" political power. BUT our system is a serious lockdown, when it comes to political power sharing. It used to be a 50/50 balance, sort of, between the Dems and the GOP. Things are changing though.
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And most libertarians don't support medpot.
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In order for the Libertarian Party to even begin to become a mainstream party they will dump the drug issue.
When I called you on the issue you attempted to change the subject to not the issue.

I'm not concerned with the realpolitik of the Libertarians' chances of becoming a major political party, just the truth of your original statement that most libertarians don't support medical marijuana.

One of the first things I learned when I started debating in 1964 was not to allow your opponent to get away with changing the subject.
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Well, I'll concede this one. I couldn't prove or disprove it. Just as I couldn't prove or disprove whether or not most Dems stand by or approve of the entire party platform, as it is made up entirely of individuals.
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