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troublemaker_42

How can a person's thoughts or beliefs be "illegal"? One can attempt to legislate a good many things, but one's thought processes cannot be governed. Committing an unlawful act because of your beliefs towards a certain race is certainly illegal, but I have no idea how one could be prosecuted for "racism". hate crimes, yes, but I see no way to lawfully prosecute someone for a belief, and thats what racism is....an erred (or maybe not) belief about a certain race. Dscrimination and hate crimes are fueled by racism, no doubt, but to prosecute someone for being racist, without any further act....impossible

 

reggie_the_dog

"How can a person's thoughts or beliefs be "illegal"? One can attempt to legislate a good many things, but one's thought processes cannot be governed. Committing an unlawful act because of your beliefs towards a certain race is certainly illegal, but I have no idea how one could be prosecuted for "racism". hate crimes, yes, but I see no way to lawfully prosecute someone for a belief, and thats what racism is....an erred (or maybe not) belief about a certain race. Dscrimination and hate crimes are fueled by racism, no doubt, but to prosecute someone for being racist, without any further act....impossible"

in france if you are heard saying "i hate **** (insert any racist word) by a cop you can be busted for a hate crime

likewise if you print a flyer saying "i hate *****"

we have no skinhead websites from france because of this

it is also a crime to say "smoke cannabis, its good"

you also cannot write it

hence we have no magazine like high times

they even used this law to bust the green party for handing out legal industrial hemp products and hemp info BECAUSE OF THE CANNABIS LEAF ON THE PAPER that was interpreted as "endorsing illegal activity", which is a crime


the limits of free speech over here are more strict than in the usa

troublemaker_42

understatement of the year, ladies and gentlemen

TheNewGuy

You beat me to it Yeah, I don't know why anyone would want to live in a country where the laws are that strict. Doesn't sound like a fun place to me.

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Buzzby

I've also heard (from Reggie?) that people smoke joints on the street in Paris with relative impunity. That would be fun!

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troublemaker_42

Maybe its a personal matter, but I'd rather be able to speak my mind, even if others don't like it or agree, than be able to smoke weed openly in public. Of course, if I was expected to keep my "offensive" or "disagreeable" thoughts to myself, i'd have to be stoned 24/7. Of course, from what I've heard, the soapbar hash there wouldn't be able to do the trick anyway, so me living in france is a lose/lose situation

MrIMStoned

You are aware that there are countries much less strict than America. America doesn't sound like a fun place to me.

I hate how over-regulated countries become. I mean ontario has laws about cutting your grass and smoking outdoors. What the hell's wrong with us??

I wonder which country is the least regulated.

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StewScum

Funny how they pull this one excuse from a murder trail and all of the sudden it's evidence against a particular drug. I'm pretty sure your responsible for your actions no matter how high you are. When the Son of Sam killed all those people in new york, there wasn't a sudden killing of all dogs to prevent more murders. This article is crap.

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reggie_the_dog

"I've also heard (from Reggie?) that people smoke joints on the street in Paris with relative impunity. That would be fun!"

we do it in small towns that only have 1,000 residents too, if a cop sees us usually they say nothing, perhaps they will scold us, at worst they give you a fine (perhaps 10 euros for a joints worth, pehaps 35 euros for a few grams, like a parking ticket).

here we have less free speech, and its harder to own guns (not impossible, it is just a privelige here not a right) but at the same time we can smoke cannabis with little to no risk at all, smoking in public is acceptable socially, and everyone here has health insurance.

the way i see it there are benefits to living in the USA and benefits to living in France.

reggie_the_dog

"Of course, from what I've heard, the soapbar hash there wouldn't be able to do the trick anyway, so me living in france is a lose/lose situation"


the worst soapbar is found in the UK and Ireland, we usually have good mid quality hash from morrocco, in paris you get good quality morroccan for 3 euros a gram in the street, and mid grade for 2 euros a gram


we also have lots of home grown in the fall...



but yes, not being able to print a magazine saying "smoke a fatty" is very annoying, its one of the things i would like to see change here.