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negaDuck

My wife has never given me an ultimatum like that, nor I her, that would definately affect(effect?) our relationship...but in tha beginning I probably would've said "ok"...killing a beautiful thing like a relationship over weed IS reason to suspect addiction. Luckily my wife smokes more than I do.

We have two beautiful (of course) little boys, and while we don't smoke around them, I won't lie to them when they are old enough to understand. I think that was a great point you made about adults drinking alcohol. My best friend's mom used to smoke when we were kids, and she wasn't hiding it...she just let us know that it was for adults, not kids. Aaron, her son, tried it a couple of times when he was in his late teens, but when he turned 18 he smoked his last joint, with his mom, for tha first time. I was there and it was awesome. We all sat around, passing it back and forth, discussing how it had affected him and his life, knowing his mom smoked. His answer was surprising:

"Watching you smoke when I was a kid demystified tha drug. I was never at a loss for answers about what was going on, what it did, and how it made you act. It was somewhat powerful to have that knowledge, it helped me make decisions when I was tempted to try things with my friends at parties. All in all, growing up around it made me not want to do it...because it wasn't anything special to me."

obviously this isn't word for word, but it is very close. For those of you thinking about quitting just cuz you have a kid...read these words, listen to yourself, and put yourself back into your teen years. Weed is pretty harmless, it's how people demonize it that is destroying lives...

ok, I'm sorry for rambling, buzzby...but you set me off with your witty observations.

peace,
nega

 

StewScum

So where does this girl who is near 30 years younger than paul, and probably going to live off of his massive fortune get off telling a former beatles member what to do. They may be married now, but it's not going to last either because paul keeps smoking weed anyway and she goes crazy, or she goes crazy, because the woman hears animal screams in her sleep. Sounds like she's going off the deep end. It would really suck if she killed him for it, but i bet that make some of yall laugh, so we'll see what happens.

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Buzzby

This is an excellent point. My Dad didn't smoke when I was growing up, although he did before it became illegal. He did have a drink or four in the evening and got blasted sometimes on weekends. The liquor cabinet was wide open and available. Booze was no mystery or "forbidden fruit".

As a result, when my high school friends where making a big deal of acquiring alcohol and getting blasted, I thought it was childish and obnoxious. As I had observed with my father, a little booze is a pleasant diversion. A lot of booze turns an otherwise intelligent person into a complete assh*le. This led me to a lifetime of moderation in all things.

I believe that hiding recreational drug use from children makes it mysterious and tempting. It also fails to provide examples of appropriate use as opposed to excessive use. Allowing your kids to see you drink doesn't have legal consequences. Unfortunately, allowing them to see you smoke can result in jail time for you and foster care for them.

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killer12382

Well its official...Sir Paul McCartney is pu$$y whipped. He needs to turn in his MANHOOD card to the nearest strip club. Do you think she lets him leave the house with his gonads or does he have to put them in the cookie jar for safe keeping?

Lothar121

I was raised the opposite way and do find the way I acted towards these substances rather childish. Perhaps a more open view towards alcohol and cannabis would gradually result in a more mature mindset to some of our young people.

I'm not sure if there is anything to this, but it brings up the issue as to why other European nations, and other developed countries can handle the alcohol age to be lower than our own (or perhaps we could handle it, and some of the things I heard from others were blown out of proportion?). Does it not have something to do with our culture and the forbidden fruit stigma we place on intoxicating substances? Are the effects of the temperance movement gone, or are they still going as strong as ever under the "disguise" of this new war, but the attitude still prevailing in educating our youth about not just illicit drugs, but alcohol as well. Did you know the KKK supported this movement and alcohol prohibition in the 1920's? Guilt by association is a fallacy, nevertheless, does anyone reading this really want to be on that side of the aisle?

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Buzzby

European countries where wine is a part of almost every meal have far fewer problems with young people and alcohol than we do and I'd attribute it entirely to the puritanical ideas that a lot of American parents have about kids and alcohol. In these other countries a clear distinction is drawn between use of intoxicating substances and abuse of them.

I got drunk on ceremonial wine when I was four years old. The grownups thought it was amusing and I went to sleep. That's one of five times in 57 years that I've been drunk. It's simply not the kind of intoxication that I enjoy and the consequences (hangover) reinforce my disinterest. We usually had wine with dinner when I was older. I'd have a glass, enjoy the taste, enjoy the mild buzz, and that was all I wanted.

Cassius

Yeah, I never much cared for getting drunk either. I can count the number of times I've been drunk on hand, also.

Ironic that our forefathers came to America to escape religious persecution, isn't it? And now we seem to think we're the only country with "morals".

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TheNewGuy

I wouldn't consider a realtionship to a woman who made me get rid of completely harmless hobbies to be a "beautiful relationship". I personally would never love a woman who made me quit anything "just because", or because she was a complete dumba$$, like the woman Paul just gave his testicles too. What if you were an avid cyclist, and your fiance said "ok, I'll say yes only if you give up the bike"? How is this different? The pot wasn't effecting this guy in even a slightly negetive way, but he has to quit because his b***? A friend asked me one time if I would give up weed for a chick (I think it was right after watching half-baked) and I just laughed.

If your female is making you change yourself to suit her better, why are you with her in the first place? I can't understand why any guy would give up harmless hobbies just because his female thought them to be unsavory. Oh wait, I just remembered why guys do that: They're a bunch of vagina-craving neanderthals.

Female: "I do not like you smoking the evil devil weed, it is addictive."

Rational male: "But its not, all evidence proves otherwise."

Female: "But what of our whelps? Think of the children!!"

Rational male: ...?

Female: "Well, you will not respond to sense it seems. I will have to make you choose bettween your harmless hobby and our relationship"

Rational male: "So I can only play with your boobies and that thing bettween your legs if I get rid of my harmless hobby?

Female: "Yes" :flashes boobies at male to put an end to all logical thought:

No longer rational male: "Yes master."

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dedbr

Rational Male: "You can't cut me off, you don't know where I'm getting it at"...

Female : "O.K., keep the Hobby."

Peace is restored.

Ded

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Buzzby

We should consider the possibility that Sir Paul simply didn't care that much. The majority of marijuana smokers quit before they're 40. Paul is in his 60s. Of all the people I've known since I was a kid, only two are still smoking (besides me). People simply get tired of it and move on.