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reggie_the_dog

"You're painting with a pretty broad brush when you say everyone that is enforcing the drug laws is corrupt. The police, DA's, and the judges are just doing their job, enforcing the law of the land. Steve Kubby had his day in court and it didn't turn out the way he would have liked it to. To bad, so sad.
There are alot of criminals in jail who aren't happy with their convictions. Tookie Williams was unhappy with his conviction. There are alot of people out in this world who thought Tookie should have been freed and that his conviction was corrupt. They were wrong and so are you. At least Tookie went through with the appeal process and which means he was more of a man than Steve Kubby. Oh and by the way....Tookie got what was coming to him. Justice served....next. Tookie learned the hard way that taking drugs can kill you.
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how can you advocate killing someone who is in custody and no longer a threat to anyone????

how can you compare the "crimes" of steve Kubby to thoses of Tookie Williams??????

 

killer12382

First of all, lets answer the first question. I believe Tookie was guilty as sin. He brutally murdered 4 people in cold blood and if anyone deserved the death sentence, it was him. He may have been convicted of 4 murders but he is responsible for thousands of deaths in the US. as the creator of the Crips street gang.

Secondly, there are people (misguided liberal fruitcakes) who believe Tookie didn't do anything wrong (just like Kubby). The facts, however, prove otherwise. Tookie had 25 years worth of appeals (24 years too many), every branch of the judicial system heard his case. The ironic part of his execution is the fact that he died of a drug overdose and his gang sold tons of crack to the people he said he cared about.
Fact about Steve Kubby.....he had possession of peyote and mushrooms. Thats a fact that you can't deny. Its against the law to possess peyote and magic mushrooms. If you're caught with peyote and magic mushrooms, you can expect to be punished (unless you're SPECIAL like Steve Kubby).
Here is the message you seem to be missing.....BREAK THE LAW AND EXPECT TO BE PUNISHED IF CAUGHT.
Whats so hard to understand about that concept?

lilgrasshoppah

You make a direct comparison between Tookie Williams And Steve Kubby... because you know, Tookie was a gang leader, and guilty of multiple murders... while Steve is "guilty" of a ridiculous misdemeanor. I find the comparison to be extremely insulting... and I ask for a retraction.

Marijuana prohibition was begun by a self-serving bureaucrat, who manipulated popular prejudices (indeed, he outright lied) about weed so that he could have power and position. What could be more corrupt than that? Maybe it is a drunken president ignoring the findings of his own commission, and using marijuana as a scapegoat for the bad consequences of his own hubris, dishonesty and incompetence?

From conception to execution, cannabis prohibition was, and is, corrupt. It is corrupt, because the idea that you can have a better society by telling other people what they may do, in private, is antidemocratic.

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killer12382

".....BREAK THE LAW AND EXPECT TO BE PUNISHED IF CAUGHT.
Whats so hard to understand about that concept?"

Try reading it one more time.

The point I was attempting to make by comparing Tookie Williams to Steve Kubby is they both were unwilling to accept the fact that they were both convicted and that they both blamed the MAN for their convictions. And that they were both WRONG. One man took his punishment in the end and the other is whining and crying and hiding like a scared rabbit. Kubby would nail himself to a cross if he could.

lilgrasshoppah

By your rationale, all potheads should be in jail. That's not the rationale I would have expected from somebody on this site. I'm always worried about people who are proud that they USED to smoke pot. Because it means they are fine with hypocrisy, and have an ax to grind.

Case in point.

 

Buzzby

I'm not clear as to why present or former pot smokers would be proud about it. It's not like it's a major accomplishment. "I'm proud that I'm a beer drinker." Sounds silly, doesn't it?


Quitting smoking pot makes you a hypocrite? Does quitting eating cheeseburgers make you a hypocrite, too? Most people quit smoking because it simply no longer appeals to them. The majority of pot smokers quit before they're 30. For the most part, pot smoking is an aspect of youth culture.

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Tolerance4all

Tookie Williams was convicted of murder. It is a reasonable argument that he should die for his acts. Steve Kubby should not have to die for possesion of natural substances. Whats so hard to understand about that? Well, if you ignore medical evidence and think you know more than the cancer specialists. Then maybe it is hard to understand. The only thing Steve thinks is special about him is his cancer. And he has lived longer than anyone else with this type of cancer. So you should get off this rant about him having a Jesus complex. Steve simply does not want to die in jail.

I see where you said your wife smokes Cannabis. I know you have told her if she gets busted she deserves to go to jail with murders and robbers. After all its the law. Anyone who breaks the law should have thought of the possibility of being raped or murdered while serving their sentence. Just because it was a victimless crime is no excuse. ".....BREAK THE LAW AND EXPECT TO BE PUNISHED IF CAUGHT."

lilgrasshoppah

I said, I am suspicious of a man's motives, when he loudly emphasizes that he used to smoke, but doesn't any more. Especially when he frequents this site. It seems more than a little strange.

Quitting eating cheeseburgers, and then saying all cheeseburgerheads deserve whatever punishment they get... and they should present themselves to the authorities, and "take his punishment like a man" is hypocrisy. Killer avoided "justice" for his entire career. And he only ever smoked pot recreationally. So his 'the cops have godlike wisdom, and are never wrong, and potheads are bad' shtick grates on my nerves.


I've said, multiple times, that there is no special morality to consumption, one way or another. However, since it is IMmoral to deny others their RIGHT to consume, consumption can acquire a degree of positive morality as a formal protest against tyranny.


PS: i'm 29... zat mean I have a year to live?

Buzzby

Some immature individuals continue to smoke past the age of 30. You may well be one of them...if you're lucky.

killer12382

Yes, its been awhile since I've lit up but it's due to the type of job I have. I work with extremely high voltages and currents. Anything less than a clear head is dangerous. Oh I take a hit once and awhile (my wife likes to smoke) but for the most part I don't smoke (that doesn't mean I don't grow but I'm not admitting to anything). And I know if I get caught, I'm in a world of trouble. The whole idea is not to get caught. Keep it low key.
I never said the cops had godlike wisdom....they are just doing their job of enforcing the law. If you don't like the law, then change it.
I never said people who smoke pot are bad.....I said if you smoke pot and get caught don't be surprized when they punish you......because you broke the law. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.