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Nutcracker4000

Yea...not too mention i can see what they mean by "isolating components"


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Buzzby

1) A civil society cannot exist without laws.
2) Laws are useless without people to make sure that they're enforced.
3) If police officers arbitrarily enforce the laws of which they approve and ignore those they don't, it becomes a society of the whims of individuals instead of a society of laws. That's the way it is in much of the third world.
4) Criticizing police officers for doing their jobs makes as much sense as blaming the rock instead of the guy who threw it at your head.

We need to change the laws. The way to do that is to keep writing to your representatives, keep talking to people about the irrationality and harm of prohibition, and to join and contribute to the organizations that lobby representatives and educate the public. Fewer than 1% of marijuana users bother to join any of the three major pro-legalization organizations.

National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML)

Marijuana Policy Project (MPP)

Drug Policy Alliance (DPA)

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Buzzby

In the reality in which I live, cigarettes were never "made legal" because they were never illegal. Tobacco was introduced to Europe when Columbus brought it back from his first voyage to the New World. It has been in use by Western Civilization ever since. The issue with the cigarette manufacturers is not that cigarettes are dangerous. It's that they are dangerous and they withheld that information from the public.

Because something is dangerous is not grounds to criminalize it. Alcohol is dangerous. Gasoline is dangerous. Insecticides are dangerous.

There are dangers associated with the use of marijuana, albeit minor ones.

The response to the disclosure of the dangers of cigarettes was that warnings were put on every pack and the companies have been successfully sued for billions of dollars.

Tolerance4all

1. Do we actually still live in a civil soceity? No knock warrants. Assest forfeiture prior to a trial, more and more without even an arrest. How can you justify the arrest tactics used againist disabled and nonviolent drug users. In a civil soceity another more humane means of enforcing the law would be found.
2. Absolutely true.
3. I for one, and I think most people will agree. Its not so much the officers in the field than it is the organization(s) as a whole. Most of the interviews with the field officers show zealots spouting Drug War propaganda. Its hard not to blame these individuals. IMO there should be many more LEOs joining LEAP. Any civil minded individual should have a problem with the swat tactics used againist nonviolent drug users and disabled patients. I understand they have to deal with much more violent criminals than patients. I have no problem with their tactics in such situations. When they get the address right. Its time the police start policing themselves better. Look at the stories of corruption, planted evidence, brutality and perjury thats reported on a daily basis. This could not go on unless civil minded LEOs are turning their backs. They see the harm that is being done. They have a civil duty to speak out about it. We don't excuse field commanders or prison guards involved in atrocities commited during war. Just because they were following the orders of superiors. Why should we excuse the atrocities committed againist disabled patients and nonviolent drug users.
4. Covered above.

I agree more people should support the reform orginizations. Meanwhile otherwise innocent, harmless and sick people are paying the price. Do you really believe they should not critisize the LEOs that caused them so much harm? For me, joining a reform organization would not be the first thing to come to mind after a swat team raid. And if its okay for the patients to critisize. Why not us?

mjharmless

made legal was probably a bad choice of words I believe the news program i was watching had said FDA approved the product for sale ...I do try to live in reality and was also trying in vain to make a point....never mind I dont want to be that technical

 

Little Nicky

1.You need to rephrase that as a civil and just society....Nazi Germany was a civil society.

2. Mao had people in place during the cultural revolution making sure that people weren't "enemies of the state".

3. How many Jews might have lived if a few more German policemen had looked the other way?

4. "I was just following orders"....where have I heard that before?

5. You're right, we need to change the laws, IF they can be changed.

msh322

Wow today is the first day of reading these posts usually I am in the cultivation forums but for some reason I can't get in today. Um I might sound like a dummy here but this is what I think in a nut shell he he he. Right now the federal gov makes lots of money off of MJ not being legal. There are lots of jobs out there because MJ is not legal. The Cotton industry is happy right now. The Pharmaceutical companies are making bank off of the now 2 synthetic derivatives of MJ. Why change it??? Why make it legal??? If it was made legal lots of jobs would be lost, the cotton industry would take a big hit, and the pharmaceutical companies couldn't corner the market on it.
The other thing that I have to agree with one of the previous posts, I don't understand that if the pharmaceutical companies are isolating component of the MJ plant and marketing them as medically beneficial and approved by the FDA.....WHAT THE HELL IS THE PROBLEM!!!!

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mjharmless

well said !!