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TheDoC_oc

This a great link for the opposition and the one sidded ed. of MJ however, it is also fairly factual except rather than realise that the drug use is triggered by the condition, and not the other way arround. Its is generaly the bodies attempt to self medicate and as a result along with lack of propper suppervision both of administration of as well as production regulations(Meth for adhd and dopeamine/norepinephrine defecienties, cocaine being useful similarly and various chems used on mj during and after growth and harvest) Plus no controll of such medication and due to the only source for these people is the street=also exposed heavily to other drugs that make them "feel better" but not for the same reason,ie..LSD,MDMA,MDA,METH,COCAINE bla bla bla........ that are detrimental to such conditions manifesting themselves earlier or at all.Enough of this ramble, check out this site to learn more about all of this crap and some. http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevent...zophrenia.html

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TheDoC_oc

http://www.marijuana.com/420/showthr...16910#poststop
Bro, educate yourself. And just incase you are wondering i am not the opposition!

TheDoC_oc

Right on! check the link in my other reply

msh322

Doc are you telling me to educate myself? Or are you saying right on to my comment?

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TheDoC_oc

right on to your comment since it is right on the money, although if you do want to know more then check out the link i posted anyway. Doesnt seem to me that it could hurt cause aside from you there are not that many people with a good counter for this subject and the morons that are attributing the mental disorders to the drugs have minimal opposition and lots of evidence. All most pro mj people just say that they are wrond but have not got any reason except that they themselves dont have that problem(that they know of!) Sorry for the confusion

 

msh322

Wow that’s some crazy info from your link doc. I followed some of the links from there and Yes, I have to agree with myself....he he he. A lot of the info that is there is based on personal opinion and small uncontrolled studies abroad. That doesn't mean that cannabis might or can exacerbate a psychotic episode. I think that there needs to be a lot more research on the subject. ...What came first the chicken or the egg??

TheDoC_oc

does it really matter? That is a question for people that want to know about things that pose no threat to us and they both came at the same! No chicken then no icubation no egg no rooster to continue the species as chicken are unlike marijuana, not hermaphrodidic(as far as i know) cant really tell but anyways the current topic posses quite a prob for us a users of cannabis for what ever reason that we use it and an even larger problem for the few people like myself who rrather than find out why i needed to do drugs, just did them and complicated the issue along the way and not untill i was almost 22 did i actualy get some med help for my condition which at first i thought was just an excuse for the drug companies to sell more new drugs. Basicly, it was off the illicit drugs and on to the scripted ones. Thoes things had restrictions like stay out of the sun and dont drink and no smokeing and seeing double for about an hour after i wake up and you think smokeing a quad of bomb to the dome in one session puts you into a veg state. That is nothing, i could have seen my own mother murdered right infront of me and it would not have provoked me to do a thing, including giveing it much more than the first thought and excepting it as the past, oh well move on. That type of crap or one of the meds caused a reacrion called tardiv dystynsia (cant spell for a damn and dont have the counter med right now so cant be sure) in which i had convulsions and my throat swelled shut all the whilr my jaw decided to do this crazy wrenching back and to the side while chomping down and i couldnt make it stop. On the way to the emergency room i broke three of my back teeth chiped a few others chewed up my cheeks and toung and by the time i finaly got into see the doctors had gone from purple to a pale blue cause i couldnt breath but my heart rate was so high that the little air i did get in kept me in this constant between of passing out and freaking out as i came to cause i thought i was gonna die from some crap that the doc had given me to help out. Ya go figure. now i smoke and make tincture to take with me when i cant smoke. I live in so cal, could you imagine not being able to go into the sun for more than 5-10 min a day?+

lost cause

A little parental guidance and compassion could have turned this unfourtunate young lad's life around. Kids at that age are very apathetic and marijuana is not to blame. Young kids shouldn't use it because the risk of not using it responsibly is there. Like most mental disorders psychosis is passed on through genetics.

Parents need to be involved in their son/daughter's life. Parents should be there to seek help and work out the problems their offspring have. Blaming anything on drugs is the easiest solution to neglection.... because so many people that drugs ruin live's.

You can come over addiction and bad habits....... many people blame cannabis for laziness.... which is not true.... im content being lazy but still I could only blame myself for not giving a shit... but since I do... i dont blame anything on drugs.

dedbr

induce cannabis immediately!


When I think of all those years before I found the herb! Or maybe it found me.....


Mental illness.....


Somewhere in Ded Land..

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Hashishi

The importance of this article is that this kid doesn't fit into the margin of error that cannabis psychosis statistics are prone to: i.e. that the use of illicit substances reflects low socio-economic standing and that low socio-economic standing reflects a positive correlation with rates of mental illness. I come to this analogy by reading that he was an active child and that he travelled across India; something one would not expect a child growing up in more impoverished conditions to acchieve.

And to earlier posters asking about the UK's obsession with cannabis psychosis links: the ACMD, in their report to Charles Clarke (Home Secretary) regarding the reclassification of cannabis to Class B status, says:

"Over the past few years, there has been growing concern as to whether cannabis use might precipitate chronic, or enduring, psychotic illnesses, including schizophrenia. In view of the ability of cannabis to precipitate relapse in individuals with established shizophrenia...it is clearly a biologically plausible hypothesis. However, research in this area is fraught with problems of both **study design and interpretation."

**See my original comment.

"Since the council's previous report, several independent studies have been published which attempted to overcome these inherent problems. Those studies given particular attention by the Council possess the following features: they have been based on a well defined sample of the general population...Collectively, the weight of evidence from these studies suggests an association between cannabis use and the development of psychotic symptoms which is consistent with these studies and which remains after adjustment for confounding factors. While bias and residual confounding factors cannot be entirely excluded, these are unlikely fully to explain the findings."

I object to how members of these forums continually refer to studies into the links between cannabis and psychosis (directly or indirectly) as 'propaganda'.

The ACMD is responding to the issue of classification: not to be confused with legalization, and it has gone about it in a progressive manner coherent with respectable sources such as the studies commissioned by Maastricht University in the Netherlands. The report I have cited (and which newspapers have referred to when reporting the matter) is responding to queries regarding the classification of cannabis (relevant to the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971) in direct proportion to cannabis' potential to cause harm.

I feel that under the circumstances the Home Office and the ACMD have appropriated research and legislation quite sufficiently. As reported in the Guardian: "About 1% of the population suffers from some form of schizophrenia. The (ACMD) estimates that the prevalence of this mental condition would be reduced by 10% if the use of cannabis could be totally eliminated. In other words cannabis, used by 3.6 million people at some point in a year, is threatening a tenth of 1% of the population."

I am not arguing cannabis' supposed negative mental impact, rather that the Home Office and the ACMD are responding to the correct circumstances surrounding the legislation against it.