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Old 09-15-2006, 10:20 AM   #1
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Drug Dealers Should Share Blame For Son's Exploits, Mother Says
Holly Hollman | The Decatur Daily | 09/14/2006

A Decatur mother said "the demons on the street corner" share the responsibility for her son allegedly robbing and threatening to kill his friend and leading authorities on a 20-mile chase.

She said the demons are the drug dealers who keep her son supplied with drugs like crack cocaine.

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Decatur police and the Limestone County Sheriff's Department have arrested her son, Michael "Greg" Gregory Marshall, 40, of 2659 Kirby Bridge Road, Decatur, on charges including first-degree robbery and driving under the influence of drugs.

He is in the Limestone jail on $6,500 bond for traffic charges related to the chase. Limestone Chief Investigator Stanley McNatt said charges are pending regarding Marshall allegedly being in a stolen vehicle during the chase.

Decatur Detective Chris Jones said that when Marshall makes bond in Limestone and issues regarding his probation are resolved, Decatur will arrest him for robbery.

The mother said she wants the community to know there are drug dealers targeting Decatur and turning people like her son into someone she doesn't know. She asked that her name be withheld because she has a different last name than her son and doesn't want to attract the drug dealers' attention to the rest of her family. She has other children, including a 39-year-old daughter, who she said is also addicted to drugs and stays missing.

(BuzzNote: But her children's drug addition has nothing to do with the way she raised them...)

"I want to ask the drug dealers, 'Do you have a conscience? Do you care that I've driven around the city searching for my daughter or that my son has a family and children who have lost their dad to drugs?' " she said. "The dealers are the ones who are murderers and robbers. They sell the drugs that create people who kill and rob."

(BuzzNote: and the bartender sold him some booze, and Ford Motor Company manufactured the truck he drove, and the US Government printed the money he stole, and Mr. Adcock made himself available to be robbed and have his life threatened... If they'd just mind their own business, Greg wouldn't be in trouble!)

Marshall allegedly tricked a family friend of 20 years, Carlos "Reed" Adcock, 72, of Decatur into giving him a ride Monday night, police and Adcock said. He told Adcock his truck broke down, and he needed a ride home.

Adcock said that on Mud Tavern Road, Marshall allegedly threatened to kill him, took his $175 and his vehicle.

Marshall allegedly left Adcock on the roadside, Adcock said.

Marshall led Limestone deputies and Athens police on a chase in the stolen vehicle, Sheriff's Department Chief Deputy Randy King said.

King said Marshall told deputies it wasn't anything personal against law enforcement, but the drugs made him do it.

"He did a horrible thing, and I can't defend him for this," Marshall's mother said, "but this started with the drug dealers."

The mother said Marshall has been addicted for 15 years. He started experimenting with marijuana and now does crack cocaine, she said.

"I don't know why he started, but he wasn't one who was popular, and he always wanted to fit in," she said.

The mother said her son sought help for substance abuse, but the dealers look for him once he's out of the program.

"People with such strong addictions need to be contained," the mother said. "Greg would need around-the-clock help. And when the money runs out, where do you get that help? Decatur has a drug problem, and nothing is being done."

She said Marshall is married and has two children. One child worried about going to school Wednesday after the news of his father's arrest.

"I pray my grandchildren will stay away from drugs," the mother said. "But I want everyone to know this could happen to anybody's kid. My son isn't a monster. He's not a heartless criminal. He's in a bad way because of the drugs the dealers sell him. He's not the son I knew before the drugs."

The mother said she thinks Marshall wanted to get caught Monday night and go to prison.

She said her son is on probation for other drug-related charges, and he knew authorities would revoke that probation. Jones said he didn't know if Marshall's previous charges were for drugs, but he did know he has a prior felony.

"Greg thinks in prison he can get away from the drugs," his mother said, "but I told him drugs are in the prisons, too, and that getting away from that is going to have to come from within."

The mother said she doesn't know if drug dealers read the newspaper, but if they do, she wants them to know this:

"You all may be riding today in your fancy cars on somebody else's money, but your day is coming. You are taking lives and tearing them apart."
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Old 09-15-2006, 11:04 AM   #2
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sentiment that I'm sure will get absolutely no play with the judge or jury.

But well, you get my point, huh?


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Who cares if it makes points with the judge or jury-- it could inspire regular citizens to stand up against the ture evils of drugs like Coke and the idiots that peddle it...

I know for a fact that these guys actually do lay in wait for weak individuals who are completing court mandated recovery, or being released from jail, having marital problems etc... They'll offer free stuff or money or "side-work" or whatever just to start up the addiction... It's sick and it spreads sickness.

weather or not his mom tells the whole truth, we may never know. The fact is that these evils do exist-- those types of pushers do exist... their addictions are much deeper than simply coke, or money-- it gets into the twisted psychology of power over the weak and being able to inflict others at a whim, and sometimes 'modern justice' just isn't quick or strong enough to deal with them...
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Of course it would be so simple to eliminate these 'evil dealers' who 'lay in wait' of the weak. It is prohibition that gives them any power they have, and in a regulated environment they disappear. Poof.

Now before someone comments I must mention that I spent 4 years of my life strung out on crack cocaine in the 80s, so lets avoid the 'you don't know how it is' comments.
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It is sad when you hear of the situation people get into. However, the mother is placing blame on the dealers for the choices her son has made. If blame is to be cast then blame the education that the son received as he matured. At the root of the matter is the simple fact that he is not capable of making the right choices presented to him in day to day life!!!! It seems in these times so many are willing to place blame on others while they look at the one responsible like they are a victim. There were choices made, hold responsible the one who made the choices!!!!!!!!!!!! The mother needs to understand why he made the choices he has made in life ( insert Buzzbys buzznote comment here ) and the man needs to stand up and take repsonsibility for his actions.
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"I don't know why he started, but he wasn't one who was popular, and he always wanted to fit in," she said.
Well, I don't know what it is like to be addicted to anything other than nicotine and I quit that a few years back. I DO know what it is like to be married to a meth addict - It sucks.

I also know how to raise (my own) kids.

I feel if this mother wasn't so protective and let her kids handle their own problems all their lives, they just might have been able to deal with the pressures of the "dealers".

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The mother said she thinks Marshall wanted to get caught Monday night and go to prison.

She said her son is on probation for other drug-related charges, and he knew authorities would revoke that probation. Jones said he didn't know if Marshall's previous charges were for drugs, but he did know he has a prior felony.
If he really wanted to be sent to jail, he simply could have turned himself in and been sent to jail for using drugs, violating his probation. He didn't have to rob a 72 year old man and leave him stranded.

Pot didn't make him take the cocaine. He has no one to blame but himself.
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Who cares if it makes points with the judge or jury-- it could inspire regular citizens to stand up against the ture evils of drugs like Coke and the idiots that peddle it...
Drugs are inanimate substances. They're not "evil" because evil requires will. The "evils" of drugs are entirely the fault of people who stupidly misuse and abuse them. There are people who abuse marijuana. They sit around getting high and don't do anything with their lives. Should the rest of us who use it responsibly and moderately be denied access to it because some people can't deal with it? I'd say that the same philosophy holds true for all drugs. Most drug users are not abusers, including users of coke and heroin. I've been using amphetamines for years because I'm narcoleptic. Legal and virtually unlimited access hasn't turned me into a speed freak

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I know for a fact that these guys actually do lay in wait for weak individuals who are completing court mandated recovery, or being released from jail, having marital problems etc... They'll offer free stuff or money or "side-work" or whatever just to start up the addiction... It's sick and it spreads sickness.
This is an evil of prohibition. If drugs were obtainable at drug stores there would be no pushers. If these "weak individuals" could get the drugs that way, would they abstain? If not, can you really blame the pushers?
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yeah I can blame the pushers-- in some cases. Emphasize the some...

many dealers are smart enough and business minded enough to see when someone needs to get cut-off. And they dont all go pushing it on newly released probationers either.

And TRUE... it is not the substance that is evil but the nature in which it is supplied in some cases...

Drugs have thier place, C-II substances help lots of folks- i'm not gonna knock 'em.... They work grrreat.

there does come a point when pushers are "over the line" and continue to distribute to people who are operating over-medicated and shouldn't have access... that is what I would call bad or evil. There's a difference detween chronic use and chronic abuse.

people get hooked on a free fix and keep selling to supply themselves with the drug. That is also wrong, bad, evil. Pushers dont usually go to school and learn all about the human body, Toxicity, LD50, etcc... some do but many do not...


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A Decatur mother said "the demons on the street corner" share the responsibility for her son allegedly robbing and threatening to kill his friend and leading authorities on a 20-mile chase.

She said the demons are the drug dealers who keep her son supplied with drugs like crack cocaine.

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Decatur police and the Limestone County Sheriff's Department have arrested her son, Michael "Greg" Gregory Marshall, 40, of 2659 Kirby Bridge Road, Decatur, on charges including first-degree robbery and driving under the influence of drugs.
Her son is 40 years old! Anyone over the age of 21 that gets into drugs already heard plenty of stories of hard drugs bein addictive, yet people make that decision to use them. No one puts a gun to their head forcing them to buy. Even tobacco companies have won their cases in court by sayin no one is putting a gun to peoples heads to buy and use their products. People die from cancer on those products and the states collect their tax dollars off it.

The black market prices of addictive products is what might cause robbery and murder. The dealers are just going with supply and demand, people that are addicted to their products are more than likely their biggest customers and is the reason they stay in buisness.They don't care that they sell to addicts, it's money to them no matter how they get it.

Usually when a dealer finds out that one of their customers has been arrested for drugs or any other charge, they might actualy not want to sell anymore products to that person knowing that they are probably on probation and will do anything to save their ass from going to jail if caught doing something else wrong such as bein in possession of drugs and then ratting out their dealer as a get out of jail free card. Awhile back i read in the paper a large drug ring that went from the east coast to the west coast, they rounded up over 100 dealers. They waited outside rehabs selling heroin to people that were fighting addiction. In a situation like that, they were praying on the weak and throwing the drugs in their faces knowing that they were trying to get over their addictions and those dealers deserved to go to jail for doing that.

The dealers look for her son? Well they probably do or is he looking for them? It's usually the customers that are looking for the dealer, not the other way around, it could be possible that they don't have a good amount of customers and are looking to make a sale.

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"People with such strong addictions need to be contained," the mother said. "Greg would need around-the-clock help. And when the money runs out, where do you get that help? Decatur has a drug problem, and nothing is being done."
Where do you get the money for treatment? In drug/alcohol programs if you have insurance they treat it as a health issue, if you have health insurance that should cover it because it has to do with sickness.

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"Greg thinks in prison he can get away from the drugs," his mother said, "but I told him drugs are in the prisons, too, and that getting away from that is going to have to come from within."

The mother said she doesn't know if drug dealers read the newspaper, but if they do, she wants them to know this:

"You all may be riding today in your fancy cars on somebody else's money, but your day is coming. You are taking lives and tearing them apart."
So what shes saying is prisons are corrupt but not in those words! Drugs get into prisons from visitors or guards, it's always one of the two. Another thing about going to jail to avoid drugs, that's still not exactly curing you from your addiction, in my opinion that's more of trying to hide from your problem which is addiction instead of facing the problem and trying to get over it, not to mention you might go through withdraws in prison without medical attention and some people have died from going into shock because of it.

You need to break off contact with anyone that uses. The CIA didn't set a good example for the public when they were smuggling cocaine into the country just so they could get their money to fund illegal wars that congress wouldn't pay for.

The pharmacy's give out addictive drugs when people get hurt, senior citizens even abuse their privileges by selling their pain killers to people that want them for high prices. Drug dealing goes on with legal and illegal drugs, it just won't change.

Peoples choices to use drugs, everyone is different, it's more about experimentation, nothings changed. The more you lecture people to stay away from something, the more it's just drawing their curiosity. It's like telling a kid to stay away from candy, it's bad for you, lot of people sneak behind their parents backs and eat them anyway. I was a teenager a few years ago, didn't get lectured much about alcohol but i was able to be honest with my parents, they knew what i was doing when i would go to parties. Atleast if i ever was to have had a problem they would know what was going on. Even told them i smoked pot, they experienced it when they were younger too so they could relate to it.

I don't agree with seeing drugs like meth legalized, but if hard drugs as well as pot were legalized, you could keep an eye on people and know if they began to start having an addiction. The fact that drugs remain illegal, people are embarrassed to seek help if they do become addicted because then their family will find out and at this point illegal drugs are frowned upon. Pot seems to be a little more acceptable based on the fact that no one has ever died from it, but when it comes to hard drugs, they try and keep that a secret from just about anyone who doesn't do it.

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"He did a horrible thing, and I can't defend him for this," Marshall's mother said, "but this started with the drug dealers."

The mother said Marshall has been addicted for 15 years. He started experimenting with marijuana and now does crack cocaine, she said.
Did it start with drug dealers, or did it start with him drinking with his friends, then a few had marijuana, he started smoking with them, liked it, then started buying it. Eventually maybe a pot dealer had other harder drugs to offer and he wanted to experiment with that or maybe one of his friends was the first to try harder drugs, maybe offered him some for free to do with them, next thing you know he liked that substance too and started buying it. If someone is out to look for pot and the person isn't selling other drugs, naturally everytime you pick up something from them your going there just to get pot and not hard drugs. Sometimes your offered hard drugs by dealers that are into a variety of drugs to show you. When i get some pot the person i see doesn't have hard drugs, but they know people that are into it if i was looking. I guess it's my choice there, but i stick with the weed.

I was watching the news not too long ago, in one U.S city 77% of the police were in trouble for testing positive for illegal drugs. Who do you think the judge would blame for their actions?

I watched something on tv called "the drug years" I think Corey Feldman did a good job talking about the experiences. Some of these people that tell the public not to do drugs get caught using drugs themselves. He talked of how they had to give a anti drug speech on tv or something, after it was over they went back to their limo and smoked a joint.
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