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| What cannabis / psychosis link? 7-30-'07 | DoseNation.com I was planning on busting out a quick response to the recent news of an apparent cannabis / psychosis link, noting that meta-analysis is fraught with peril - in fact, the last round of Ecstasy toxicity scare stories were based on a flawed meta-analysis. But our own Omgoleus noted in a comment to the last post: Note that the only thing new here is a meta-analysis, where researchers (possibly feeling lazy) go over the results of all the previous studies in a field to see what they say collectively, rather than doing any new work.It's not just that they round up old studies and attempt to come up with new conclusions. It's that they can also pick and choose which studies to include, thus skewing the conclusion toward whatever bias they might have, which clearly happened in the past. Now I'm not saying that's what happened this time, although the article does note the meta-analysis did exclude subjects who were already showing signs of psychosis at the start of the studies in question. But without examining the entirety of the literature, it's hard to say. Luckily for us, Dominic Holden over at the SLOG has already dug a little deeper, and noted: By reading these headlines, you would believe recent findings show conclusive evidence that marijuana use leads to increased risk of psychoses. You would be wrong. The report is actually based on a meta-analysis of previously debunked studies, and the findings, as the article’s text immediately volunteers, are completely ambiguous.Indeed, take a look at this very recent study, via a link that Holden provided: Marijuana use is not associated with heightened symptoms of schizophrenia, according to data to be published in the journal Schizophrenia Research.What seems to be clear is that: Although investigators did not assess whether cannabis consumers had greater odds of contracting schizophrenia compared to those who did not have a history of smoking pot, prior reviews have downplayed such an association. Most recently, Britain's Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD) concluded in 2006, "For individuals, the current evidence suggests, at worst, that using cannabis increases lifetime risk of developing schizophrenia by one percent."Even the authors of the meta-analysis under critique here are clear that: There could be something else about marijuana users, “like their tendency to use other drugs or certain personality traits, that could be causing the psychoses,” Zammit said.And finally, as Holden points out: Is this not obvious? If this study shows anything, it’s that psychotics are smoking pot to chill the fuck out.But it's not clear that this does study does show anything, without carefully examining all "35 studies on the long-term effects of cannabis use in Europe, the US and Australasia" to determine if, as Omgoleus describes above, any of these studies have "methodological problems or limitations," the most common of which in studies like this is the inability to control for any other kind of drug use or environmental issue that may have an impact on a person's mental state. Given that subjects in these studies are typically self-reporting users of illicit substances (i.e., no one is taking a pool of subjects off into a private facility, and then dosing them with medical-grade marijuana and nothing else), these studies are very difficult to take at face value. That said, if anyone out there actually has read these same 35 studies - while at the same time examining the literature to make sure any studies that don't support the meta-analysis (like, oh, gee, the one that Holden pointed us to) weren't excluded - feel free to ping us with your thoughts.
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| Cannabis psychosis has reached epidemic proportions in the UK and Australia. Strangely, not a single case has been reported outside their borders until very recently. Now it seems to be spreading to Switzerland. My own careful research has shown that this disease is not spread by marijuana use or marijuana users. It's spread by prohibitionist terrorists* hoping to establish a new anti-marijuana myth. If we were to quarantine all of the prohibitionists on an island somewhere, the epidemic would disappear. ![]() *terrorist n. A person or organization that seeks to change society by creating fear in the populace.
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