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Old 03-13-2008, 06:12 PM   #1
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3/10/08|The New York Times| Editorial

After three decades of explosive growth, the nation’s prison population has reached some grim milestones: More than 1 in 100 American adults are behind bars. One in nine black men, ages 20 to 34, are serving time, as are 1 in 36 adult Hispanic men.
Nationwide, the prison population hovers at almost 1.6 million, which surpasses all other countries for which there are reliable figures. The 50 states last year spent about $44 billion in tax dollars on corrections, up from nearly $11 billion in 1987. Vermont, Connecticut, Delaware, Michigan and Oregon devote as much money or more to corrections as they do to higher education.

These statistics, contained in a new report from the Pew Center on the States, point to a terrible waste of money and lives. They underscore the urgent challenge facing the federal government and cash-strapped states to reduce their overreliance on incarceration without sacrificing public safety. The key, as some states are learning, is getting smarter about distinguishing between violent criminals and dangerous repeat offenders, who need a prison cell, and low-risk offenders, who can be handled with effective community supervision, electronic monitoring and mandatory drug treatment programs, combined in some cases with shorter sentences.

Persuading public officials to adopt a more rational, cost-effective approach to prison policy is a daunting prospect, however, not least because building and running jailhouses has become a major industry.

Criminal behavior partly explains the size of the prison population, but incarceration rates have continued to rise while crime rates have fallen. Any effort to reduce the prison population must consider the blunderbuss impact of get-tough sentencing laws adopted across the United States beginning in the 1970’s. Many Americans have come to believe, wrongly, that keeping an outsized chunk of the population locked up is essential for sustaining a historic crime drop since the 1990’s.

In fact, the relationship between imprisonment and crime control is murky. Some portion of the decline is attributable to tough sentencing and release policies. But crime is also affected by things like economic trends and employment and drug-abuse rates. States that lagged behind the national average in rising incarceration rates during the 1990’s actually experienced a steeper decline in crime rates than states above the national average, according to the Sentencing Project, a nonprofit group.

A rising number of states are broadening their criminal sanctions with new options for low-risk offenders that are a lot cheaper than incarceration but still protect the public and hold offenders accountable. In New York, the crime rate has continued to drop despite efforts to reduce the number of nonviolent drug offenders in prison.

The Pew report spotlights policy changes in Texas and Kansas that have started to reduce their outsized prison populations and address recidivism by investing in ways to improve the success rates for community supervision, expanding treatment and diversion programs, and increasing use of sanctions other than prison for minor parole and probation violations. Recently, the Supreme Court and the United States Sentencing Commission announced sensible changes in the application of harsh mandatory minimum drug sentences.

These are signs that the country may finally be waking up to the fiscal and moral costs of bulging prisons.
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:54 PM   #2
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"These are signs that the country may finally be waking up to the fiscal and moral costs of bulging prisons."

Yeah, until the Prison Lobby dumps a load of cash in the right pockets...
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Personaly I don't think that we are going to be able to ignore this, hoplfuly it will make our society revaluate the current situation that we are in, prison pouplation, the high price of food and gas. Hopefully the benifits of herb will come out to the spot light soon, we will start using it for fuel and feed for live stock. There are more problems out there that could be solved with just this plant, a reneable resource, but enough preaching to the choir.

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look at the percent of our prison population there for drugs or drug related crimes, sepecifically- all the theft, violence, and toher crimes, and all the dolars spent at every level to enforce these laws
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basically i think the government needs to be the nations drug dealer, and society would profit from this.

what do you think?
What do I think? The government IS the the nations drug dealer. It's just as simple as that. It's all about the money far as the politicians are concerned. The main people in jail are the ones the rich bastards use to make their fucking money, just like they use us to make all their money on everything else.

The minorities are the wasted of our white society. It all made me sick a long time ago............


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What do I think? The government IS the the nations drug dealer. It's just as simple as that. It's all about the money far as the politicians are concerned. The main people in jail are the ones the rich bastards use to make their fucking money, just like they use us to make all their money on everything else.

The minorities are the wasted of our white society. It all made me sick a long time ago............


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many people dont understand this, but i fully agree .

the goverrment (police, politicians, etc) controls the drug trade.

but they stand to profit more fro them being illegal even though it hurts so many lives and is destroying society 0-

it all comes back to money because :

money = money

money = power

money can buy almost any(one / thing) someone wants,provided they can afford it.
drug delaersd pay to keep drugs illegal because they would lose millions if they became legal. it would be the worst punishment for drug dealers. they would be out of a job.
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Drug War Facts: Prisons, Jails and Probation – Overview

read this; it provides some intersting information
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