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Old 08-20-2008, 05:31 PM   #11
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What is called "medical marijuana" is a toxic, tar-laden weed used in various forms (cigarettes, bowls, bongs and brownies). Users generally are seeking the "high-producing" chemical, tetrahydrocannabinol — THC — one of the 66 bio-active chemicals (cannabinoids) found only in marijuana. THC pills have been available by medical prescription for at least 20 years.
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If you consider that there isn't a physical addiction associated with marijuana and that the psycological addiction experienced by a very small, insignificant percentage of the users is less than that associated with caffeine, it would appear that there isn't much need for your drug treatment program with respect to marijuana.

I was very amused when I read the front page of your web site. I noticed that marijuana isn't even mentioned. Could this be because there isn't a need for your program with respect to marijuana addiction? Could it be that the only purpose a program like yours has, with respect to marijuana, is that those who face criminal penalties choose the option to be diverted to these types of programs to avoid the criminal stigma attatched to being arrested on marijuana charges?

I also noticed this in the first sentence on your front page "treatment center staff are there to act as moral guidance". Personally, I find it highly immoral that you would deny the suffering a substance that is very effective in treating thier afflictions and then come here and try to tell them to use THC pills that have been proven, time and time again, to be ineffective, very costly and to have many undesirable side affects associated with thier use. If this is your idea of moral guidance then I say no thank you, I can do without it. I guess this is what happens when people open thier mouths without knowing what they're talking about
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Old 08-20-2008, 10:01 PM   #12
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Man you ever take cough syrup and other medicines (prescribed not over the counter), read the side effects - may cough blood, vomit, diarrhea, leakage(running fluid from your bottom), DEATH, drowsiness, ONE OF MY FAVORITES: must get regular blood work done by doctor. there's more but i can't think any more.

Weed lets see, may make me tired, that's why i smoke mostly to sleep with it. And depending on how often i smoke it may give me the munchies usually after i smoke for a good week i don't get the munchies but every now and then it comes back.
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I don't know where you got your quote, but you are wrong.
It's from the original post in this thread.

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I find it offensive that you come here plugging a drug treatment program for people that use marijuana as medicine.
I suspect that's how he makes a living.

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Maybe you should do some real research, like I have, and continue to do. You will find truth.
Why would he do that and put himself out of a job. Phony treatments for "marijuana addiction" produce huge profits and they don't have the problems they get from addicts withdrawing from drugs that are actually addictive.

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Smoking a weed for medicine is the pharmacological equivalent of eating moldy bread for penicillin or eating poppy seeds for morphine. All contain contaminants, and none in their raw form is approved for safety and efficacy by the FDA.
Am I the only one in the world who remembers Asthmador cigarettes? Asthma patients smoked them to relieve symptoms. I believe they contained belladonna. Until the latter half of the 20th Century, most drugs were herbs or derived from herbs. Medicines synthesized in laboratories are a fairly recent innovation. Smoked cannabis has been used medicinally for thousands of years.

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Physicians worldwide — in the United States, England, Holland, and especially Canada — are concerned about their liability, should harm result to their patients.
In the US, they're more worried about losing their licenses due to DEA interventions.
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Old 08-21-2008, 01:39 PM   #16
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Man you ever take cough syrup and other medicines (prescribed not over the counter), read the side effects - may cough blood, vomit, diarrhea, leakage(running fluid from your bottom), DEATH, drowsiness, ONE OF MY FAVORITES: must get regular blood work done by doctor. there's more but i can't think any more.

Weed lets see, may make me tired, that's why i smoke mostly to sleep with it. And depending on how often i smoke it may give me the munchies usually after i smoke for a good week i don't get the munchies but every now and then it comes back.
May cause haulicinations - thats a good safe one
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The simple notion that someone can put powerful words down on a piece of paper, that they know in there hearts is wrong. When hundreds of Doctors put there license on the line to help the sick, when on the other side, they tie the users to drug crazed, crack baby having people.

Mr. James is paid to help people bounce back from there drug addiction. So obviously, I can see where he is coming from. Another man, looking forward to cashing a bigger paycheck, then to acknowledge the facts.

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It may come as a shock to you Doctor. But 47 million Americans are uninsured. That means, 47 million Americans have to pay out of pocket for a Doctors Visit, they have to pay ridiculous amounts of money for a pill that is cooked up, that has the same things found in Marinol(Isn't it funny how you say marijuana has no medicinal purposes. But they named it after the actual plant!?). Which in fact, a simple google search will show the side effects....

Digestive: Abdominal pain*, nausea*, vomiting*.
Nervous system: (amnesia), anxiety/nervousness, (ataxia), confusion, depersonalization, dizziness*, euphoria*, paranoid reaction*, somnolence*, thinking abnormal*.

I don't know about you Mr. But I'd much rather pay for something that is allot cheaper, with allot less side effects.
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Digestive: Abdominal pain*, nausea*, vomiting*.
Nervous system: (amnesia), anxiety/nervousness, (ataxia), confusion, depersonalization, dizziness*, euphoria*, paranoid reaction*, somnolence*, thinking abnormal*.

I don't know about you Mr. But I'd much rather pay for something that is allot cheaper, with allot less side effects.
Learn something everyday. didn't know how bad the side effects could be with marinol. Makes me wounder what they put in them if anything else

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The problem with trying to debate something like this with any of those people is that most of them actually believe their own bullshit. They're not going to listen, they're going to bury their heads in the sand and pretend they can't here you.

Now don't get me wrong, if something needs to be said I'm all for saying it regardless of weather or not it will do any good. It's just that the only way that we are ever going to get people to see the good of marijuana is to get the drug policies changed on the federal level. The biggest obstacle to marijuana being widely accepted nation wide is the fear people have of going against the federal gov.
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Digestive: Abdominal pain*, nausea*, vomiting*.
Nervous system: (amnesia), anxiety/nervousness, (ataxia), confusion, depersonalization, dizziness*, euphoria*, paranoid reaction*, somnolence*, thinking abnormal*.

I don't know about you Mr. But I'd much rather pay for something that is allot cheaper, with allot less side effects.
Actually, those are exactly the side-effects you'd expect from using way too much marijuana. There are posts on this site from people who have reported every one of them after a session of overindulgence.

Marijuana and Marinol are going to have the same side effects because their main active ingredient is the same: THC (give or take a few atoms).
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