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Old 05-13-2008, 12:20 PM   #1
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Marijuana Still Drug of Choice
05-12-08|The Delphos Herald|By Mike Ford

Throughout the counter-culture era, “Cheech and Chong” had “ganga” burning “up in smoke” as a war-weary nation laughed on.

No longer solely associated with sandals and tie-dyed T-shirts, marijuana has transcended all social demographics. Adults and teens alike smoke it in “bongs” and fire up “blunts.” Local police say the country’s most popular narcotic is abused by those of various income brackets and social status.

“Marijuana is fairly widespread in Delphos. I’ve always called it the ‘universal solvent’ because certain drugs seem to stay with certain demographics but marijuana transcends age, gender, race, profession, cultural background and so on,” Delphos Police Sgt. Kyle Fittro said.

Having also served with the West Central Ohio Crime Task Force, Fittro has seen the drug locally trafficked.

“We worked trafficking cases on about 20 or 22 different individuals in Delphos and about half of them were trafficking marijuana. Most of the others were trafficking crack,” he said. “The largest marijuana seizure I’ve seen in Delphos was last summer when I stopped a vehicle containing 5 1/2 pounds of it. The chief is now driving it — that big purple thing with chrome rims.”

Fittro expects to see an increase in local marijuana-related arrests because the department has a new K-9 officer. He says police plan to use “Egus” aggressively to sniff out “weed.” The 2-year-old’s snout is heavily relied on at both local high schools.

“The school searches are very effective because kids have no idea when we’re coming. We started doing this in 2002 and kids thought they were getting away with it. I think the amount we found was insignificant but we got their attention and the schools are taking a very tough stand. They don’t want drugs on their campuses,” said an area undercover agent.

Jefferson High School Principal John Edinger knows there are some “potheads” in the student body but reports marijuana is not smoked in his boys room.

“We have never found anything inside our building. The dogs have hit on cars for residue but police admit the dogs do mess up just to get their treats. There have been three times in my five years that the dogs found paraphernalia and we have had kids come to school smelling like it, especially on Mondays, and I send them home. Once, I had a kid admit smoking it before he entered the building; that was one of just five times I’ve had to discipline a student for it,” he said.

Edinger stresses the district has a zero-tolerance policy regarding all illegal substances, as does St. John’s Schools.

High School Principal Don Huysman says police dogs have not found anything other than stale food in the parking lot. He performs locker checks any time he gets suspicious.

“You have to be very careful in this day and age. It’s very difficult; you can’t go just on rumor but I do locker checks periodically throughout the year to see if I smell anything. I don’t go looking for it but I will look if I have suspicions,” he said.

Police often find items such as rolling papers and “roach” clips in users’ possession. According to the Ohio Revised Code, having paraphernalia is an arrestable offense. If a possessed amount of marijuana is less than 100 grams, the amount is not arrestable, but if it’s a ‘doobie’, the rolling paper will cause an arrest because it’s paraphernalia. This leaves many scratching their heads.

Van Wert County Assistant Prosecutor Martin Burchfield says small amounts of the drug itself carried heavier penalties until the statute changed. The penalty for paraphernalia remains unchanged, thus the discrepancy.

Task Force Investigator Dan Howard says laws are designed to target traffickers and dealers. Therefore, $5 and $10 quantities do not land users in the “clink” for the amount itself.

“All trafficking is a felony regardless of quantity. Possession is where we often have problems because they have to have at least half a pound to be charged with a felony and most of the people we deal with are buying ‘nickel’ bags and ‘dime’ bags, which is misdemeanor weight,” he said.

The area’s marijuana originates in Mexico and is unpleasantly packed for cross-continental highway trafficking, according to Delphos Police Chief Dave Wagner.

“Marijuana from Mexico gets mixed with cow dung to get it in to those tight square blocks. Users have no idea what is actually in that marijuana,” he said.

Wagner also indicates various pesticides may be used in the growing process. He also says the potency has changed due to increased THC (tetrahydrocannabinol), the drug’s key chemical.

“The THC content of marijuana has increased so incredibly compared to what it was in the 60s and 70s. Any of today’s parents who grew up getting high need to understand that marijuana is not the same as it was back then,” he said.

Many nationwide groups advocate legalization, pointing to legalized “medical marijuana” in California. One lawmaker doesn’t expect similar passage in Ohio.

“I think legalization is pretty unlikely. There are any number of things that are illegal but aren’t as bad as other things that are illegal. The farther down the line you go, the more likely you are to develop the social ills we have now such as alcoholism, health problems with tobacco use, gambling addiction and these sorts of things, which taxpayers end up paying for. My view is that if we legalize marijuana, it will cost us a lot more money to rehabilitate people and deal with all of the problems it will cause,” said Ohio Fourth District Representative Matt Huffman (R-Lima).

Though he admits there would be benefits with regulation, such as the absence of fecal matter, Huffman believes legalizing the narcotic would take the country in the wrong direction.

“If you legalize prostitution, there would be some health benefits for people who pay for those services; there are all those kinds of arguments but the problem is the cost it would add for taking care of the extra problems,” he said.

Despite the sometimes-passionate arguments surrounding the issue, Fittro says it is complicated and progress seems lacking.

“The modern war on drugs has been waged for a long time now and I’ve come to the conclusion that what we’re doing is not working. I liken it to garbage collection. People put out their trash and it gets picked up every week but there’s always more. The same is true with drugs; we’re not getting rid of the ‘trash.’ We’re just keeping it from piling up, so we’re more of a suppressive agent than anything else,” he said. “I don’t know what the answer is. People talk about treatment options and legalization; they talk about radically increasing the penalties to where they’re just outrageous but nobody really seems to have the answer.

“I just know that what we’re doing isn’t fixing the problem and I don’t know if it even can be fixed because as long as there is money to be made from it, it will continue. Greed is the motivating factor.”
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Old 05-13-2008, 12:37 PM   #2
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The chief is now driving it — that big purple thing with chrome rims.”
Doesn't this seem a little snide to anyone?

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Though he admits there would be benefits with regulation, such as the absence of fecal matter, Huffman believes legalizing the narcotic would take the country in the wrong direction.
Yeah, we could all use a little less fecal matter. This article is mostly full of it...

Of all the reasons to end the prohibition of cannabis, reduction of fecal matter is about the lowest priority. Making sure police don't have (stolen)cars that are big and purple with chrome rims? Thats a different matter.
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Just once I would like to hear these people delineate the horrible consequences of legalizing. Does society rehabilitate everyone who has a beer??
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Doesn't this seem a little snide to anyone?
That is exactly what I was thinking, wtf? Thats just wrong.
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If a possessed amount of marijuana is less than 100 grams, the amount is not arrestable, but if it’s a ‘doobie’, the rolling paper will cause an arrest because it’s paraphernalia. This leaves many scratching their heads.
Yeah no shit...
I'm really sick of these loopholes. You can have 100 grams, just can't have anything to smoke it with. Uhhh, ok. Sure, can have papers but you can't use them or it ends up worse than just having pot!
Just so fucking aggravating
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For real Dark, the difference in Ohio between possession and paraphenalia is that the pipe will give you a permanent record. My friend recently screwed that up and gave an officer a half smoked bowl instead of his oz of weed (we are in the dorms). luckily Athens is a really good community and the officer worded the ticket very carefully and as a result no permanent record and he just can't screw up for 2 years. I can't remember exactly how he worded it but it was different than when I got arrested as a minor.
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I live in Ohio and I was curious enough to ask a judge if he knew the exact reason. He told me this....

Paraphenalia can be used for smoking and using other things besides herb. A lot of bowls confiscated contain cocaine residue. Paper's can be used to roll something with the herb as I'm sure we all know, so with that I guess you can understand the reasoning.

I think it sucks but that's the way it is and I can see the point.......


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I live in Ohio and I was curious enough to ask a judge if he knew the exact reason. He told me this....

Paraphenalia can be used for smoking and using other things besides herb. A lot of bowls confiscated contain cocaine residue. Paper's can be used to roll something with the herb as I'm sure we all know, so with that I guess you can understand the reasoning.

I think it sucks but that's the way it is and I can see the point.......


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Well call me crazy but....that's just fucking crazy!
I CAN'T see the point. They make it worse because papers CAN be rolled with something else? Big fucking whoop. I CAN stick a bit of my weed and other goodies in a fucking pizza too, they gonna take that away?

Shit what about tobacco pipes? You might as well take a tobacco pipe because of a hunch of cocaine residue inside that. What about hand rolled cigarettes? You can put other things in there as well...

To me it just looks like they are trying to keep a bit of control still. Well, go ahead and have a few oz's and we'll only fine you, but don't you dare try to smoke it with anything but a lighter! Light the bud and inhale the fumes baby .

Ya know, seems to me they have things a bit fucked up. IMO, it's most likely the dealers are the ones not carrying pieces around. So in their efforts to control, they are letting dealers go with a $100 fine for having up to 100 grams of pot, yet they are putting a permanent record on the teenager that just bought a gram from him and was caught smokin a joint....

It's just silly. Make a joint worse than
3 1/2 ounces of pot, and the main reason being "Well, you can stick other illegal goodies in the joint". Petty petty petty

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I said it sucks Dark, but I can see the reasoning behind it. In my experience a lot of the laws don't make sense, like this conundrum........How can it be legal to buy a pack of papers even though if you get caught with them and herb you have commited a crime worse that the simple possesion. Same thing with pipes. How can it be illegal to have and use this if it is legally purchased?

This one gets me too: You can be arrested for "Operating A Vehilce While Intoxicated" if you test positive for herb. It doesn't matter if you smoked a joint three months ago, it could still be in your system to show on a test. Now what kind of fucking sense does that make? If your stoned, your stoned. If the test can't tell how intoxicated you really are, how could the test be fair? The only strategy is long and drawn out and it does have it's consequences, not all of them good........

If asked to supply urine for a drug screen refuse. Even though you signed an agreement with the state saying you would give upon request when you got your drivers license, you still have the right to refuse. You can not be compelled to give evidence against yourself. There will be a chance that the judge will hold you in contempt for refusing, but this is the only method I've found that worked. After this they will be forced to drop the OVI and charge you with reckless operation. The reckless op carries the same point penalty as a OVI, but with one big difference. Two OVI's in Ohio with even a small wreck can be a FELONY and you could go to prison. Hard days......

They have gotten very serious here in the state over the DUI and OVI laws and punishment is severe on most cases. Lifetime license suspensions are getting to be mandatory for a certain few. It is not a joke here in Ohio. After that drunk guy hit that bus because he was going the wrong way on the interstate killing 23 kids and I think three adults they got deadly serious about it...... The worse drunk driving wreck in the history of the United States. The bus turned in to a fireball and burnt the kids up......


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“Marijuana from Mexico gets mixed with cow dung to get it in to those tight square blocks. Users have no idea what is actually in that marijuana,” he said."


what the fuck.
You dumb pricks.

Just stop it......


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