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JustAnothaPHead

I think he's trying to be unique like Dennis Rodman. He also is known to wear black shoes with long white socks., or is is white shoes with long black socks?


anyway I think it's funny.

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Dark

I can't believe these Pistons, I just can't believe it. I've never seen them fall apart like this within the last 5 years of them making it to the eastern conference finals. Of course I have to give credit to Cleveland, but you can't deny that the Pistons were just not mentally there whatsoever. I mean Chauncy Billups, with 6:30 left in this 4th quarter only has 9 points, and 1 assist. 1 assist? This is completely unacceptable from this all-star, and all series he has been nothing as a complimentary player, or as a scorer. And of course, yet again Rasheed letting his emotions get the best of him, getting ejected, and suspended for the next game if there was going to be one.
Losing to the Cleveland Cavaliers, I just can't believe it. Props to them, but NO ONE from Detroit played how they should have. Frustrating and irritating to say the least. Good luck to Cleveland in the Finals.
If the Spurs sweep em I'ma be PISSED! Lol.

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JustAnothaPHead

peace out



looks like only 7% of the voters are gonna be correct.

JustAnothaPHead

Sir Chuck just said the same thing you said about 10 different times.

Logitech

i thought detroit was hungry for another ring. shit, the only people who thought clevland would win the series were clevlands fans and the team! who would have thought detroit would have fallen apart like this, holy shit. i dont think flip saunders should be head coach of detroit. he's a good coach, but not for the pistons. ill also be pissed if the spurs sweep the cavs. i cant see the cavs beating a team like the spurs.. even if the detroit series was a comming out series for king james, his teamates arnt exactly all-stars lol. they are good, but they have no where near the experience and skill the spurs have.

DAMN..

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I whole-heartedly agree. Charles and them were saying how Flip is going to get the blame now and it's upsetting, but I'm thinking to myself you're damn right he is going to get the blame, and he should! I'm not saying that the players aren't to blame either because they certainly are, but Flip is not a good coach in almost any aspect in my opinion. He lets the players run the show, and he basically lets Chauncey do whatever he wants to on the court. Chauncey calls the plays, Chauncey makes the shots, and if Chauncey misses, Chauncey shoots again , and Flip has nothing to ever say about it. He doesn't try to control 'Sheed when he starts to go on a rampage, he doesn't pull his guys together when they begin to lose, he doesn't do squat. Larry Brown had that veteran and championship mentality that made the Pistons strive to do better, but when Flip, he's like a proud father, he is happy with the team no matter how they play. That can't cut it. We need someone LIKE(not saying they need these people specifically) Avery Johnson, Pat Riley, Greg Popovich. I know that these guys are basically some of the best coaches in the league, but they need that veteran mentality! You can't put a group of guys like this together, coached by a somewhat young, less driven coach, and expect everything to work out in the end. Flip isn't driven, he doesn't take charge nearly enough, and he doesn't get on his players asses when they don't play up to par. I'm sick of his coaching style. I didn't like his decision making last year, and I don't agree with it this year.

Now to think about next season. What are the Pistons to do to get this franchise better? I keep hearing that their reign as the Eastern conference powerhouse is coming to an end, but that is so much bullshit. Just because we lose to the Cavs, and Chauncey Billups is a free agent, this means that we won't be considered champs anymore? Chauncey has said before that he would enjoy staying in Detroit. He likes the fans, he likes the atmosphere and most of all he likes his teammates. I personally don't see any reason he would leave. IF he does leave though, then I believe that the Pistons can easily jump back. They surely won't be as much of a powerhouse, having one of their all-stars leave the team, but we will be able to make changes and be able to have our other players step up to the plate when need be. Rasheed can be the best player on our team, easily. Rip Hamilton can be the best player on our team, easily. Prince can start to step up even more, improve his game and become an offensive monster. We will jump back.

Now, some other big free agents from the Pistons. Chris Webber, Antonio Mcdyess, Dale Davis, Flip Murray. Chris Webber has no reason to leave. No way he would go somewhere else after just being with us for one single season and having the run to the finals that he did. Mcdyess...I'm unsure of. I know that he enjoys this team, but I am unsure as to how he will react to this loss to the Cavs. Dale Davis I could care less about, and Flip Murray can suck a nut , I never liked him.

I strongly was dissatisfied when the Pistons traded Carlos Arroyo and Darko last year. I loved Arroyo's type of play, and we KNEW that Darko could be great, we just never gave him the chance! WHY?! It never made any sense to me, and we traded him and Arroyo like they weren't nothing. Arroyo's passing was essential! Darko's play could've been essential! And at the time, with Ben Wallace becoming a free agent that year, why the hell make such a move that can be so detrimental to the team?? I just never got that move...but now I'm going on a rant about everything inbetween . Oh well eh? I feel as if I need to rant about these guys.

Let me switch gears to Nazr Mohammed for a minute. I don't understand one bit why they weren't allowing this man to play. He was the backup for Tim Duncan for years with San Antonio, and he did a pretty fine job of coming off the bench. Even with the Pistons he wasn't anything amazing, but he did his job with the minutes that they gave him. Then all of the sudden he just stops getting minutes, and instead Flip starts playing Dale Davis? That old piece of shit can't play worth nothing, and you have Nazr sitting on the bench when he is the obvious better player. They could have used him a lot more than they did, and it disgusted me how they wouldn't even give him a chance...I sort of think that we should re-sign Antonio Mcdyess, trade him for a backup small forward(Carlos Delfino for backup SF most the time? Ridiculous!) and begin to give Nazr and Maxiell more minutes. I have enjoyed Maxiell's play ever since he started getting some productive minutes for the Pistons, and with some good given time off the bench, I think this kid can rise his game up to a level we didn't think he could do. And like I said, Nazr can play back-up for Webber. But we need a back-up small forward, no question about that. I hope they make a move to get someone for that position. I'd also like to see flip murray gone and a better backup PG to help out Chauncey, or whoever else is the starting point guard next year.

I think I'm done with my Pistons rant for now . I'm going to play some NBA 2k7, all this bball talk has my mind flowing with plays, players and kicking some ass, lol. Final thought - Don't give up on the Pistons just yet. We may be on a downhill slope for now, but we will step back strong next season, I guarantee .

BuddyKaya

Umm well this Detroit team had its best season(most wins) with Flip and not with its previous coaches . Just look what happened to the t wolves when he left they didn't get any less talented bu they went form contenders to bottom feeders

Flip brought some offense to Detroit without compromising the D

I dont get why its wrong to let Chauncey call the shots on the court i cant think of more poised,experienced, smart and clutch player

With such an experienced team Flips coaching style is perfect they dont need a baby sitter, and if anything Sheed has had less T's than any year of his carrer. There offense has gotten better and thats a number fact. So u cant bitch about the coach not calling plays or whateva but thats obvously bs

None of those guys u named :arroyo, darko or Mohamad would of gotten them over the hump(and frankly Delfino is way better than any of them)

This Detroit team is the best Detroit has been in the last couple years. Do the numbers research wins, point differentials everything has been up since flip. It just happens to be other teams improved and they happen to lose in the conference finals

If anyone should be fired its ur dear gm that chose Darko over Melo Wayde and Bosh( not really that was retarded but over all he makes good decisions)

When ur team is number one in its conference and makes it to the conference finals with relative ease u dont fire ur coach thats just plain stupid. You make acquisitions and tweak it so it gets a lil better and u have better shot next year.

As always Charles is right

THEY LOST A 4 TIME DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR(2002, 2003, 2005 and 2006), hum maybe that might have hampered them a lil and not the supreme job Flip did

I bet any other team that lost an allstar and still won more games would not blame their coach

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Dark

Ok, yes they had their best season but I think it has very little to do with Flip. That came from being hungry after losing to the Spurs in the finals, and they still had the same starting 5. Flip had nothing to do with this. I agree that Flip brought a bit of offense to the team, but obviously not enough. He can't make clutch decisions, plain and simple.

Nothing's wrong with letting Chauncey call plays, but that's what the coach is for. Chauncey calls more plays than Flip even does, and to a degree that's fine, but if that's the case what the hell is the coach there for.

A baby sitter? I never said they needed a baby sitter, they need a coach that can take control of a team when they get out of control like the Det Cle series. Any good coach can take control of their team, and Flip has absolutely no control over his players. They blame him for losses and that is the reason that Ben Wallace left, because he hated Flips coaching style.

And let's not fool ourselves here, Sheed has less T's because of the new rule made that players will begin to be suspended after a number of T's. That just so happened to be the year that Flip came on the team, it has nothing to do with Flip.

Well that's your opinion I suppose. Arroyo is better than Murray or Hunter, Darko is better than Mohammed or Dale Davis, and you're fooling yourself if you think that Delfino is way better than Darko. You seem to be a numbers man, so look at the facts . Darko is a far better player.
And I'm not even attacking Delfino, I like his play very much and I hope he stays with Detroit for a while. They need to give him more minutes...but he still has a lot of improvements to make.

You seem to only take a look at the regular season. First of all, like I said in the beginning, they had their excellent regular season last year because they still had their starting 5, and they were hungry from losing to the Spurs in the finals. That is why they had 64 wins, not because of Flip, and with 64 wins, of course your numbers are going to be up! If they were the best team they have ever been in the last couple years, then they would have a championship, or at LEAST make it to the Finals. Instead they fall out in the conference finals both years, while the two previous years they made it to the finals. Stop looking at only the regular season numbers, and what the players are able to accomplish, because Flip has hardly anything to do with it.

Yes, it was a bad move, and I agree on that. But that has nothing to do with my argument.

So I guess it was stupid to fire Larry Brown when they made it to the finals, two years in a row with ease, and won a championship? . My "tweaking" would be to find a new coach. I view it the same as trading a player for another, only it's the coach. I don't see why this would be "just plain stupid"

Well of course it did! I never claimed that losing Ben Wallace wouldn't hurt the team, anyone with half a brain could see that coming. The fact is though they lost last year with Ben, but that isn't the only reason that Detroit lost this year. You can't just blame it on losing Ben Wallace. Yes, it hurt their chances, yes, they would've been a better team with Ben, but yes, I still think that Flips coaching is only average, and yes I think that this had a lot to do with Detroit losing.

Lost an allstar and still won more games? What facts are you looking at. We had Ben last year buddy, the year we won 64 games, and this year we won 53, 11 less.

The fact is some of your arguments are alright, but it's mostly just rubbish to me . Opinions are opinions, and if you don't think it was Flips fault for losing then I can't change that, but I watch almost every Pistons game, regular season and playoffs, and in MY OPINION Flip has had nothing to do with their success, and a lot to do with their failures. You look at the coaches of the leading teams in the NBA, and they are all able to take control, and "babysit", as you put it, when their team needs it. Flip ain't cut out for the job, and I'll never change that opinion. He seems as if he would do better with a younger, growing team, not one that is looking to win a championship.

BuddyKaya

Well u blame him for everything and i don't blame him for anything so were rpob both part wrong

But saying Ben left cause of Flip is bullshit i think 60 something million dollars had a much greater influence on that

And ur right about the less wins i stand corrected

And Darko might have bigger numbers than Delfino but thats only cause he plays for a team with alot less pieces. Delfino is the shit just like every other Argentine in the league that place is one hell of a Basketball school

Dark

Well I certainly don't blame him for everything. Certainly a big part of it, but I digress .

Before negotiations with the Bulls or any other team happened, Ben showed his obvious discontent with Flip. Numerous times he had fights with him, and vividly showed how he did not agree with his coaching style.

Im sure the money did have something to do with it, but Ben said himself it's not about the money this far in his career. I'm sure part of that is bullshit, but he wnated to be on a team he enjoyed, and he no longer enjoyed Flip or his style.