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SirSmokesAlot

Can you please direct me to a scientific source that shows that aluminum oxide is released when aluminum is heated, and what damaging effects it has on the human body? Thanks.

 

stavia hippie

here ya go bro dawgy:

http://www.healthfree.com/paa/paa0008.htm

http://www.premier1.net/~raines/aluminum.html

its about how cooking materials used to be made from this metal, and how it used to kill many. now it doesnt give mention to aluminum oxcide from direct flame, but it isnt hard to see that if you cant cook with (which requires a flame or heating apparatus) you shouldnt smoke with it.

hope that helps!

peace,

****ALSO READ BELOW****

Analysis of Deliberate Aluminum Dosing of Humans
A curious practice arose for gold miners in Ontario, Canada, that involved deliberate inhalation of aluminum metal dust. One of the side effects of mining gold is a lung condition called silicosis, from the silica dust inherent in gold ore. At the McIntyre Porpupine Gold Mine, someone got the warped idea that miners should inhale aluminum dust, which would coat their lungs, and then when they coughed up the aluminum they would also expel the silica inhaled during the working day. Stupid is as stupid does. It was an absolutely insane practice - so insane that it lasted until 1980, when officials “decided” there was no evidence that the aluminum dust was doing any good against silicosis.

In 1980, after this dubious practice was discontinued, an epidemiologist at Clark Institute of Psychiatry in Toronto, Dr. Sandra Rifat, heard about these miners and decided to study them to understand the effects levied on the men. She eventually tracked down over 1,300 men who had been miners since the 1940s. Of those, 647 agreed to participate in the study. After putting these men through cognitive tests (examining memory and logical thought), it was apparent that all the miners tests scored in the “impaired” range. [The Advocate, “Is aluminum releated to Alzheimers disease?”, Dec 11, 1990, p.B-2., Walsh, M.W.]

You don’t have to be a miner to inhale aluminum compounds. Dust from talcum powder, baby powder, cat-box litter, cement, asphalt mixes, tobacco smoke and ashes contain aluminosilicates. Complex ionic aluminosilicates go directly to the brain through the olfactory system. [According to neurobiochemist Eugene Roberts, PhD, a research physician at the City of Hope National Medical Center. ] Much of the damage typical of Alzheimer’s disease, coincidently, is found in the olfactory regions of the brain. Metal particulates are a significant constituent of the general atmosphere in many industrialized countries. These particulates are typically 1/50 the width of a human hair. The miniscule size of these particles enables them to join other elements floating in the blood. A darkfield microscopic examination of your blood will show heavy metals floating around. They also travel through cell walls and into the nucleus and directly affect the DNA. Yale University researchers in 1978 published a paper that estimated that 140,000 deaths a year are related to all forms of metallic air pollution compounds.[ Noble, H., “The air: Unsafe at any site”, New York Times Magazine, Nov 4, 1979, p.122.] Metallic air pollution now kills almost 300,000 people each year, and the toll is rising, despite the scientific evidence.

No one is taking industry to task. The legislation during the administration of George Bush actually allowed an increase in industrial metallic particle emission, beginning in 1995, long after he would be out of office.[Bush created the Council on Competitiveness, a front for industry and manufacturing to head off EPA santioned environmental restraints. It was overseen by Dan Quayle. The Council altered standards and issued operating permits to over 35,000 polluting businesses. Quayle’s Council reviewed EPA administrator William Reilly’s Clean Air Act proposals and added a provision to allow manufacturers and chemical companies to increase pollution levels without public review. In 1991, EPA General Counsel Donald Elliott wrote a memo declaring the Council’s proposal to be illegal. William Reilly called for the public to be notified. The Council rejected the EPA proposal, and Bush directed the EPA to issue the rule. Reilly refused to do so, unless the Department of Justice declared it to be legal. Attorney General Barr issued a legality memo. On June 25, 1992, the new pollution rule was in. Now, under the “Clean Air Act of 1990”, industries are allowed to actually increase atmospheric pollutants. Bill Clinton scrapped the Council of Competitiveness as soon as he got into office. It had already served its function - to subvert all existing environmental legislation that would interfere with the process of causing degeneration of the physical and mental capabilities of the population. In 1995, television commercials appeared for small pocket recording devices to help those with poor memories find their parked cars. Curious.] Toxic metals in the atmosphere include nickel, aluminum, titanium, beryllium, cadmium, arsenic, lead, mercury, iron, and manganese. The converted sulfur and nitrogen oxides, plus the hydrocarbon emissions, constitute antigens that can cause cellular mutation. The net effects of this process suppress the human immune system, reduce cell-mediated and humoral immunity, depress white cell (phagocyte) response, increase susceptibility to infection and stimulate fibrillary tangles in the brain - the same tangles that are found in Alzheimer’s disease.

SirSmokesAlot

OK cool! Now we just have to figure out if any fumes given off when Aluminum is heated act in the same way as ariborne metal dust particles.

Thanks for the infro!

CocoaDrinker

Ok, so i just read all of that stuff and it is quite alarming. However, there is a little flaw in the whole aluminum=alzeheimers thing.

Granted, researchers have found the same sort of enzymes or whatever in people with alzheimers as with aluminum. But if you also consider that there is a large amount of water within all tumors, this informations isnt all too helpful. Would we also conclude that water causes tumors?

Researchers have been trying for a long time to prove that there is a direct cause/effect for aluminum and alzheimers, but so far they have been unable.

I am not saying here that it is safe to use aluminum foil for smoking purposes, I myself am scared ****less of it; I am merely stating that there is no proof to support either viewpoint.

P.S. Are there any alternatives to aluminum foil that would be safe for a substitute? Do they sell brass foil perchance? or something of the sort....

turbodude

i used to be a big fan of converting the big plastic bottles into bongs, but i would get too stoned, and barely got a buzz when someone passed a joint my way. as i get older, getting stoned seems to take more of a toll on my energy level.

i am very energetic when stoned, but when i have to go to work on monday, i feel like i am about to die. the plastic bottles are very efficient at containing excess smoke until it is ready to be inhaled (hardly any wasted smoke as with joint).

the trick is to cut, drill, or burn two round holes (about 3/8" diameter) in the bottom of the plastic bottle. insert your favorite small glass pipe (about $8 from your local head shop) in one hole and use finger on the other hole to control air smoke mix.

on a slightly different note. has anybody heard the rumor that hawaiian pot contains more arsenic than other pot because the hawaiian soil (volcanic) contains more arsenic than regular mainland soil? to make a long story short, i was in maui a few months ago, and got a real good buzz from pot supposedly grown on the big island, but the next day i started to get a nasty cough with laringitis for the next week. i could barely talk. i'm not sure if it was the hawaiian pot, or too much mexican weed, or a new pipe i had bought. if they legalized this stuff maybe we would know what was in it.

 

bluntman/chronic93

I'm a new smoker, my first time trying weed was a week ago
but i've been experimenting with homemade bongs for a couple months
this is the quickest, cheapest, and easiest design i've used
it' gets the job done


The easiest thing to do is get a 20oz. bottle, a pen, some gum, a bowl, and a knife

cut two holes in the side: one about an inch from the top, and the other about two inches from the bottom
stick the hollow tube of the pen in the lower hole and aim it toward the bottom, seal the hole with used gum
the upper hole is your carb hole
i'm under 18 so i can't just get a stem and bowl, so i use tin foil
i know it causes alzheimers, but i'm lookin for other options
the just fill it up, light it up, and toke away

greenBirds

plastic, YUCK! mcDonalds cup, yuck. aluminum, yuck.....wine bottle/beer bottle:tape, tubes, and a socket. baby food jar makes a great bubblah: poke three holes in the lid.put a trube/straw in the first hole, aaaahhhhh the hell with it. you probably made something and smoked any way. i was too late to help. i just wanted to say yuck to the plastic, and aluminuminum...etc....