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Old 11-13-2001, 02:09 PM   #1
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There was talk in the early to mid 80's that aluminium (specifically cooking in aluminium cookware) could increase the amount of aluminiumn in the blood stream and that an increase in Al was a trigger to a genetically pre-disposed individual to the onset of Alzheimer's Disease. Not a cause, a trigger.

This was never actually proven, though the blood scans of Alzeheimer patients does show increased aluminium levels.

Hope that helps.

Don't forget to add what your teacher with the PhD. in genetics has to contribute. The more information we can gather, the more knowledge we can gain!


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Old 11-14-2001, 12:36 AM   #2
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Howdy!

Increased blood levels of ANY metal, or ANY mineral, or ANY drug can potentially be dangerous.

Aluminum, zinc, lead, and other metals have indeed been found with examining sections of affected people's brain tissues.

People with Alzheimers disease have many changes in their brains. Two common ones are the clumping and distortion of fibers in the nerve cells, called "neurofibrillary tangles," and clusters of degenerating nerve tissue, called "neuritic plaque." These changes occur in the parts of the brain that control thinking, learning, sleep and memory and disrupt normal brain functioning.

Some scientists believe a virus causes alzheimer's disease.

Some cases have been related to head injury.

Family history vs. environmental factors?

A family usually grows up together, sharing the same water, foods, living spaces, and also viruses and bacteria.

Does it make sense that if alzheimer's disease was "in the water" that yes, an entire family would be exposed to disease causing organisms?

Romans invented plumbing.. Using LEAD pipes and fixtures (easy to manipulate) Latin for lead is plumbum. Increased blood levels of lead lead to neurological deficits and eventually psychosis and death. Many believe that an epidemic of lead poisioning and crazy citizens started the fall of the Roman empire. Many also think that the Roman Empire higer-ups all went nuts because of their elite plumbing systems... price we pay for being fancy, huh?

What actually causes Alzheimer's disease is UNKNOWN. It could be, and probably is a host of factors, with the same physiological result. I am inclined to agree with your professor, that family history pays a very important role.. but it is definitely not the end-all-be-all factor.

Using any search tool, type in Alzheimer's disease and do some independent research. You will find much information, many of it conflicting. We still know very little about the disease, and the is very little effective treatment, absolutely no cure, and the few medicines that are available are only useful for making the first stages last longer, so that the affected person will remail cognitive longer before progerssing, or regressing (however you see it) to the next stage.

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Old 11-16-2001, 05:44 AM   #3
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okay, i talked to my docter who perscribes my physchiactric medications and has a p.h.d. in like brain chemistry about alzhiemers and what causes it. she says it is mainly hereditary but can occur and has a faster onset in people with a family hisotry with alzhiemers when the brain is not stimulated enought. she says like nuns and people whp are constantly reading and keeping their mind busy who will get alzheimers sometime within their life have a much much later onset is at all than people who don't stimulate their brian enough. i specifically asked her about what smoking aluminum vapor would do. she said there was a report about that in the news that has since been disproven she said that was just a myth. also i figue since we let our brain roam and use it when we are stoned would should be some of the safest people on earth. there. a qualitied doctor with a degree in that stuff. so next time you need a piece dont be so afraid of the good old aluminum bong (can).

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Old 12-02-2001, 08:09 PM   #4
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What about the rumor of aluminum cans containing a thin inner coating of plastic? I asked this in another thread, and it was closed, strangely WITHOUT any reply whatsoever on the topic of the plastic issue.

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I'm sorry, I should have been more specific: smoking out of a aluminum can supposedly ignites the plastic coating and causes seizures. But this is just a rumor I heard, and I'm looking to find a reputable consensus one way or the other.
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The initial assumption is incorrect. There is no "plastic coating" on the inside of aluminum cans. Aluminum is non-corrosive and 100% recycleable.

Unless you can find me bottling (canning) information of soft drinks that differs with that general knowledge -- which is definitely possible , I believe that should answer your concerns.
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why not save up $25 and get a little glass pipe and not worry about it?
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either that or go buy papers, and if you cant freehand roll, then get a rolling machine.
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word man. rolling machines are the s***. everytime i roll i use the good ole rolling machine. it's the best 3 bucks i have ever spent. they come out perfect and stiff and burn so slow.... oh i think it needs some more weed tonite

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Hmm i asked my ICP teacher today about burning aluminum foil... He said that aluminum oxide vapors are infact produced when you cook in like an aluminum container or in aluminum foil, but very few of those vapors are actually absorbed into your food. He said that most likely they'd all disperse into the atmosphere. Then he said (odd expression/wink/hint) that perhaps heating it with a fairly cool flame for several seconds wouldnt produce substantial if any aluminum oxide vapors.
And isnt a clump of burning pot fairly cool.... i know ive had burning bud in my hand before and i doesnt hurt.
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