Budd8089

There are several posts on this forum about it, and none of them really clear it up. For now, I guess I'm finding something else. Most of us are only going to use aluminum for a home made pipe/bong in desperate times. These ARE desperate times, so I ask you: IS burned aluminum unhealthy?

I can't really understand how anybody would want to put aluminum on food products if it was dangerous when heated, let alone smoke with it.

Thanks.

DaisyCrazy

that's a very good question and I'd also like the answer to be a fact not just your regular old monkey moltings.

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deadhed

From a thread that I had started before on another forum:

I read up on the Alzheimer's-aluminum connection, and the most reliable sources seem to indicate that not enough evidence exists to link the two. I put this in this forum to relate to my thread MJ Facts vs. Agitprop, as an example of bad facts happening to good people. I did a search, and several well-established and respected members of this site have said that aluminum can cause Alzheimers (I am guilty of this too.) Can anyone provide a link from a reliable source that refutes the below statements?



Positions of Major Alzheimer's Groups:

Alzheimer's Society: http://www.alzheimers.org.uk/pdf/i_aluminium.pdf
National Institute of Aging, NIH: http://www.alzheimers.org/unravel.txt
Alzheimer's Association: http://www.alz.org/media/positions/alum.htm

The flame vaporizes very little of the aluminum and its oxides, so although inhaling the small amount that it does can not be good for you, I wouldn't worry about it at all.

Nash

id like to know this also, the only thing i've heard about smoking with aluminum is that it could bring on alzheimers(sp?) at an earlier age.. but i've also heard that this is a myth. are there any adverse effects other than the alzheimers thing?

Budd8089

Well, I did find this...
http://www.cerebral.org/Maps/msg01068.html


">Since a toxicologist is out there, what about using aluminum pipes or
>aluminum foil for burning resins, is there an Alzheimers disease link?

It is no longer believed that aluminum is a causal factor. The consensus
is that Alzheimer's is caused by aberrant proteolysis of a normal cell-surface protein, amyloid precursor protein, to generate fragments of beta-amyloid protein in the extracellular spaces. The beta-amyloid peptides then aggregate into macromolecular deposits known as plaques. It is unclear how the plaques themselves lead to cell death. Apparently there is a strong genetic component to this disease.
Nicholas V. Cozzi, Ph.D.
Department of Pharmacology
East Carolina University School of Medicine
Greenville, NC 27858"

I have no idea about half of what he's saying...but PHD says not. Hmm.

Fryth

Aluminum produces aluminum oxide when burned, which is toxic. Smoking through aluminum = bad for you. Just how bad, well, I don't really care to find out. Never heard of any Alzheimer's link...

deadhed

For sure inhaling vaporized aluminum oxide is bad for you, but the amount created from holding a lighter to weed for 2-3 seconds is negligable.

SirSmokesAlot

I agree Deadhead, I think the aluminum scare is much to do about nothing. We have been cooking with it for years and years now. You would think we would have heard something by now about it being bad for you. Let's also note that when you cook your food in aluminum, it withstands high temperatures for much longer than an aluminum bowl would, giving it much more of a chance to contaminate your food. If you think it is bad, lets see evidence, and not speculation.

Panama

To the Chemical and Physiological forum.

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Budd8089

Did Fryth just casually ignore my post, or does he also have a PHD?