Bowlblaze

I agree with MoJorison on this one, Tobacco =
Anyone else notice that just because you smoke bud people automatically assume that you smoke cigs, and are ok with people smoking them in your house. ALWAYS, ALWAYS ask before lighting a cig. But anyway, mixing weed and tobacco isnt the smartet idea, if you need the tobacco, just have a cig after. Also, i HATE when people hand me a joint with smoke tobacco in it and dont tell me; i dont need weed so badly that I'll smoke tobacco with it.

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SmokerForPeace

Be reasonable, minute amounts of tobacco aren't gonan harm you. Weed isn't exactly good for your lungs either. We all die someday. On these boards it's becoming trendy to hate tobacco.

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metlok

I dont smoke cigs at all i hate them, but give me a break smoking a regular joint is probably worse for causing cancer then 1 cig you just smoke less often.. and smoking a flavoured blut wrap is not going to kill me.

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Mr.Mojorisin

Be reasonable, minute amounts of tobacco aren't gonan harm you. Weed isn't exactly good for your lungs either. We all die someday. On these boards it's becoming trendy to hate tobacco.

We all die someday? What a horrible outlook on life. Of course we all die someday, but that doesnt mean harm yourself as much as possible inbetween creation and death. Im against tobacco in all shapes and forms, and even more so when its mixed with grass. Trendy to hate tobacco? Give me a break.

I dont smoke cigs at all i hate them, but give me a break smoking a regular joint is probably worse for causing cancer then 1 cig you just smoke less often.. and smoking a flavoured blut wrap is not going to kill me.

Read this, some people are so easily fooled. Most research done into marijuana vs. tobacco was hideously biased. The marijuana consisted of leaves, stems, seeds and finally, the buds. More research is needed into marijuana, its positive and negative effects, and I bet you as more and more research is done, less and less tar will be found. I highly doubt the researchers take into account things like bongs, vaporizors or anything like that.

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metlok

To defend Smokerforpeace I think all of his arguments are true. We all die sometime is not so much an outlook on life as a fact that we accept and we dont waste are lives trying to make every healthy choice. No it doesent mean that we should "harm yourself as much as possible inbetween creation and death" it means that if you use a very small amount of tabacco like whats in a blunt its not going to harm you at least not noticibly. Its not like we are 2 packs a day chain smokers here. Third it has become trendy to be a non smoker and hate it, 20 years ago when considerably more people where smokers it was popular to like tobacco. It is probably good that it's no longer popular to smoke tobacco because it does kill even though i question the reliability of the link you posted there probably is crap like that in tabacco. I dont see how you can sit here and bash tobacco when you smoke weed and it is iresponsible for you to think of it as safe if you where to smoke it in as large a quantity as tabacco it would probably be just as dangerous. Let me ask you something if you are so concerned about your health why dont you make your parents smoke there cigs outside ? I also know for a fact that you have smoke in other ways then a vaporizer which means you are putting small amounts of crap into your blood stream dania it or not.

broomhdj

Wow a lot of people sure hate tobacco in here. Just because you don't smoke it, it doesn't mean you have to hate it.

For example I don't smoke cigs or anything, but every so often (whenever I roll a jay, which isn't often) I will throw a little tobacco in with my weed in a joint.. I know, gross eh. Whatever, I just use it as filler, the buzz isn't bad tho. I only need about a 1/3 of a bowl (of weed) to get high so why would I roll a joint with nothing but weed in it? What a waste that would be.

bogaN

blunts next to bongs are the best way to smoke weed. they burn so slow and get so many people high. u are not a true budsmoker if u dont enjoy a fat ass blunt

metlok

BTW I never smoke cigs and only an occasional blunt

Mr.Mojorisin

****ing God, this is the third time I am writing this, so Im going to sum up my reply.

I have asked my parents not to smoke around me, and they try, but since they constantly smoke, it gets a bit hard for normal interaction to take place. I have no money for a vaporizor, if I did you can bet your ass I'd be using it over my spoon. The only reason I had money for a spoon is because I took care of someones dog, consequently thats the only work Ive done in a long time. I find nothing wrong with people using tobacco, its their life to live, I am just against it for a few simple reasons: second hand smoke makes me cough and restricts my breathing, it tastes like crap, it leaves me with a horrible aftertaste, and it reaks up my clothes the odd time I have smoked. Also my mother has been smoking unfiltered all her life and I feel she is going to die younger than she should, which keeps me from touching the stuff. Most smokers smoke a pack a day and a fair amount smoke two packs, while the average pot smoker, and I dont mean just teens who tend to over smoke, but the pot smoker on average does not smoke 15-20 joints a day unless he uses it for medicinal reasons. I sit here and bash tobacco because it kills over 500,000 people annually (and thats just in America, 5% of the world population), through first hand and second hand smoke, and then think of all the people who suffer because of tobacco related diseases. Now, how many cases out there do you think can directly be attributed to marijuana, where the user had never smoked in his life or been subjected to tobacco smoke? Where is the documented proof that marijuana smoke will damage you as badly as tobacco smoke? Also, I barely smoke, I doubt I have smoked 2 ounces since I began this two years ago. And what is this crap Im putting into my body? Is it the same crap that works better than some conventional asmtha medicines? Is it the same crap that helps relieve the pain of the sick and dying? The same crap that allows AIDs patients to swallow the legal medicines that will significantly prolong their lives? The same crap that has been used as a medicine for thousands of years? Is that the crap your talking about?

Its a little scattered but that was basically what I was going to say without the qoutations.

jaman

ya, Mr. Mojorisin summed it up .

I don't have anything against people smoking sigs , but I hate if they smoke to close to me .

Most people that smoke sigs , smoke 20 to 40 cigarettes a day .

I don't no what the average would be for a pot smoker ( because there are so many different amounts that people smoke ) but I would say it would be around 1 or 2 marijuana cigarettes per day .

That's the big difference , people that smoke cigarettes usually smoke allot more .

Also , there's no government organization sticking tar and nicotine in our pot ( yet )

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