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Old 05-26-2008, 05:18 AM   #11
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While there are no "drug checkpoints", there are many places where LEOs look to catch drug traffickers. On these corridors, they look for certain kinds of vehicles and drivers, and find an excuse for pulling them over.

It happened to me in Missouri when I was driving a rented Ford Explorer. Apparently, rented SUVs are one of the things they look for. I got pulled over for being three mph over the limit while other drivers were passing me. I refused permission to search my vehicle. They brought in a dog who alerted on everything in sight, including my truck. On that basis, they searched it and found my waterproof match box containing a few joints. They put it back in my backpack, apologized for the delay, and sent me on my way.

Like fishermen, they were throwing the small ones back into the water.
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:52 AM   #12
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Really, there are no drug checkpoints. I must have crossed the California and Arizona border over 100 times in the last 20 years. My experience includes commercial vehicle Port of Entries where the DPS or CHP will conduct an inspection of the vehicle.

The OP clings to his belief in an obscure and odd series of stories that does not make sense in the real world of interstate travel - and regardless of the strength of the friendship, there are significant facts missing.

For the OP - if your friend's story were true, would we not see a hundred stories describing the same circumstances posted here as we do for the teenage trifecta, busted in dorms, and busted in school stories we do have. When people get busted, they tend to come here and post about it, and dragnet checkpoints at state borders are not being reported.

The paranoia meter is pegged in this thread.

thanks bro you seem super duper intelligent but I'm really not trying to debate any of your supposed legal expertise here, I am just looking for helpful information and you don't seem to have any for me. thanks anyways.
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While there are no "drug checkpoints", there are many places where LEOs look to catch drug traffickers. On these corridors, they look for certain kinds of vehicles and drivers, and find an excuse for pulling them over.

It happened to me in Missouri when I was driving a rented Ford Explorer. Apparently, rented SUVs are one of the things they look for. I got pulled over for being three mph over the limit while other drivers were passing me. I refused permission to search my vehicle. They brought in a dog who alerted on everything in sight, including my truck. On that basis, they searched it and found my waterproof match box containing a few joints. They put it back in my backpack, apologized for the delay, and sent me on my way.

Like fishermen, they were throwing the small ones back into the water.
thanks for the information that actually relates to my question man, I am actually going to be taking the I 40, close to MI, so good to know. take it easy
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thanks bro you seem super duper intelligent but I'm really not trying to debate any of your supposed legal expertise here, I am just looking for helpful information and you don't seem to have any for me. thanks anyways.
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Actually, I think the fact that there is no such thing as a "drug checkpoint" is VERY useful info for you to have. Here's another tidbit that might be good to know....while drug checkpoints are NOT legal, signs advertising them ARE legal. South Dakota has pulled this trick multiple times.....they'll set out an electronic sign announcing a drug checkpoint coming up (even though such a checkpoint DOES NOT exist) and then they'll use spotters to look out for suspicious behvior (throwing stuff out the window, ssuddenly turning around/stopping/ exiting the road/etc) and pull over the suspicious vehicles on the pretext of a traffic stop (though the purpose is actually investigation of possible drug possession). If you see signs annoucing DRUG checkpoints, disregard them completely, as there is no such thing(but that doesn't mean they won't try to fool you).

Further reading if you want proof such checkpoints are illegal or doubt the legality of SD's methods of getting around this ban on such checkpoints

Drug Checkpoint Ahead? Relax and Keep Driving | FlexYourRights.org
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Is it possible to avoid taking major highways when crossing from California into Arizona? I mean, since you do know there is a possibility that there will be some sort of an immigration checkpoint or something at the border, can you just plan your route to avoid roadways where they would take place?

The other thing I want to suggest, and I want to make this a little harsh without sounding too bitchy, is that maybe you just avoid bringing anything with you for this trip? I mean obviously you know there is a possibility that something could happen, and you're just assuming that the bud in your new homestate is going to suck, so you're really going to risk getting into trouble when you can avoid it entirely by not taking anything with you? That just seems silly to me. And I don't want to attempt to qualify this by saying that I've been in trouble for possession in the not-so-distant past but I have and I do know just how much it FUCKING SUCKS. It really does and I have to live the rest of my life with all these "shoulda, coulda, woulda's" in my head and I just feel like if you do take something with you and you do end up getting into trouble, you're going to feel awful because you knew you could have avoided it and you didn't.

I just feel like that would be a terrible way to start this new chapter in your life. You're not going to want to move down to Alabama and have to fly back to California for court for something you could have avoided.

Clean out your bongs and pipes so they are spotless and hide them well. And really, think twice about taking any weed with you. Putting them in coffee isn't going to help, either. Dogs' sense of smell allows them to distinguish between different scents unlike humans' sense of smell which basically only allows us to pick up on whatever smells strongest (that's why people can get away with covering up awful smells in their homes with a couple of squirts of Febreeze or Lysol).


yeah I'm contemplating just not bringing any, but smoking a couple J's on the road makes the journey so much better!! And I really wouldn't know since I've never purchased bud outside of my area, but maybe alabamian bud isn't total sh*t compared to cali. Luckily we have no glass that we're dying to take, so if we do take any bud there wont be anything to (possibly) have to chuck out the window.
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Old 05-26-2008, 11:11 AM   #16
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Actually, I think the fact that there is no such thing as a "drug checkpoint" is VERY useful info for you to have. Here's another tidbit that might be good to know....while drug checkpoints are NOT legal, signs advertising them ARE legal. South Dakota has pulled this trick multiple times.....they'll set out an electronic sign announcing a drug checkpoint coming up (even though such a checkpoint DOES NOT exist) and then they'll use spotters to look out for suspicious behvior (throwing stuff out the window, ssuddenly turning around/stopping/ exiting the road/etc) and pull over the suspicious vehicles on the pretext of a traffic stop (though the purpose is actually investigation of possible drug possession). If you see signs annoucing DRUG checkpoints, disregard them completely, as there is no such thing(but that doesn't mean they won't try to fool you).

Further reading if you want proof such checkpoints are illegal or doubt the legality of SD's methods of getting around this ban on such checkpoints

Drug Checkpoint Ahead? Relax and Keep Driving | FlexYourRights.org


yeah I've read about the fake drug checkpoints, it's good to know. But I already stated that the term drug-checkpoint is just what I am choosing to call them, not some legal term I'm claiming to know all about. Whether that's the actual name or purpose of the stop, I really dgaf, (someone please tell Bart), I just want to know where these and/or similar locations are because people are in fact getting their cars searched.

Thanks for the links though, some extra info outside of a forum is great.
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yeah I've read about the fake drug checkpoints, it's good to know. But I already stated that the term drug-checkpoint is just what I am choosing to call them, not some legal term I'm claiming to know all about. Whether that's the actual name or purpose of the stop, I really dgaf, (someone please tell Bart), I just want to know where these and/or similar locations are because people are in fact getting their cars searched.

Thanks for the links though, some extra info outside of a forum is great.
With or without a vagina, you are still but a child in my world, as I have over a half-century trudging the roads of this country. The nature of my occupation has me crossing state lines almost daily - in most cases the state line is simply a sign along the side of the road. What's more, one of my duties is to assure that a bunch of pot-friendly folks do not run afoul of the law crossing state and international borders. You obviously have never been to Canada.

Trust me, I am not hung up on the semantics that you are using - I completely understand what you mean by "drug checkpoint". Yet when a half-dozen other folks come on here and say that such check-points do not exist, you still disregard their input and hold to 2 stories from your friends as gospel truth. You assert that "Secret Drug Checkpoints" and people being busted really exist, it's just that we have never heard of it here on MJ.com

It is like you asking us what the aliens look like in UFO's. When we tell you that UFO's don't exist, you argue that you have friends who have said that they had alien butt sex, so it must be so. And you just want to know what the Aliens look like, anyway. Your mind was made up before you posted, nothing we can say will deter you from the concept.

Go ahead, leave your pipe and weed behind. Because you are too paranoid to travel with it anyway. But I promise you that when you get to Alabama you will regret your tin-foil hat paranoia and wish you had followed the direction that has been offered here.

Not to mention that your friend's stories do not jive with what is known about drug dogs.
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With or without a vagina, you are still but a child in my world, as I have over a half-century trudging the roads of this country. The nature of my occupation has me crossing state lines almost daily - in most cases the state line is simply a sign along the side of the road. What's more, one of my duties is to assure that a bunch of pot-friendly folks do not run afoul of the law crossing state and international borders. You obviously have never been to Canada.

Trust me, I am not hung up on the semantics that you are using - I completely understand what you mean by "drug checkpoint". Yet when a half-dozen other folks come on here and say that such check-points do not exist, you still disregard their input and hold to 2 stories from your friends as gospel truth. You assert that "Secret Drug Checkpoints" and people being busted really exist, it's just that we have never heard of it here on MJ.com

It is like you asking us what the aliens look like in UFO's. When we tell you that UFO's don't exist, you argue that you have friends who have said that they had alien butt sex, so it must be so. And you just want to know what the Aliens look like, anyway. Your mind was made up before you posted, nothing we can say will deter you from the concept.

Go ahead, leave your pipe and weed behind. Because you are too paranoid to travel with it anyway. But I promise you that when you get to Alabama you will regret your tin-foil hat paranoia and wish you had followed the direction that has been offered here.

Not to mention that your friend's stories do not jive with what is known about drug dogs.

alright, grandpa, so I should bring it with me? The only direction anyone has pointed me in on this forum is not taking it along, maybe they're wearing an aluminum foil hat too, we can have alien butt sex together.
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Ignorance isn't so bad.... Ignorance can be cured, after all.
Stupidity, on the other hand...
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SoHigh, if it was me, I'd definitely do it. But that's just me. I decided a long time ago that cannabis was an offense I was willing to get busted for. I would look up all of the possession, paraphenalia, and DUI laws for the states i was crossing through.

I've rode across the country before, crossed into Cali from Ari, and there was not a drug check.

On the interstates, they care so much more about trafficking than anything else. They're looking for the big fishies.
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