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Or can they go through a window, or another door? The reason why I am asking this, is because what if the cops come to bust it open with a 80 lb battering ram, and find out it's a reinforced steel door with special hinges. Aka, a door that they will need very special equipment to take down. Using this time someone could destroy plenty of evidence. Can they break in a window? Smash down the garage door? Do they HAVE to use the front door, and if not, are they required to at least try that one first?

What if they can't get into the house at all, and the person has successfully destroyed all the evidence before they can get in? Can they be charged with anything?

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Im guessing you have a little more than pot in your house ay. And ya im pretty sure they can go in however they need to or noone would be in prison cause everyone would ****en weld there front doors shut lol. Imagine this. Cops come to your house and they can only go in the front door but you have it completely sealed off so they cant get in. But you have an open window right beside it and your sittin there laugin your ass off because the only way they can get in is through your super reinforced door lol. I dont think they would give a **** if they broke your windows etc.... may i ask what your hidin?

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SouthernStoner

haha yeah it sounds like ure hiding something big

Niteshift

Or can they go through a window, or another door?.........Do they HAVE to use the front door, and if not, are they required to at least try that one first?

The short answer is that your house can be entered by any means necessary.

Very often, we don't use the front door. I've been on SWAT and warrant teams since 1988 and I'm more often than not the point man (first guy through the door). I've entered houses and buildings through a lot of different portals.

What if they can't get into the house at all

That's pretty unlikely. Ever heard of explosive entry? Yes, it uses explosives to get inside.

and the person has successfully destroyed all the evidence before they can get in? Can they be charged with anything?

Sometimes they won't, but in many cases, they still will be. Presuming that we are talking about a felony (because there aren't as many search warrants issued comparatively for misdemeanors), the police need probable cause to charge you with the felony. They needed probable cause to get the warrant in the first place. So, in GENERAL, there was enough evidence to charge you before they ever approached your house.

Then why the search? It's to gather MORE evidence. Yes, if you destroy the evidence, it will make the case weaker. Yes, it might even lead to the case being dropped because it doesn't look like a winner. But you're not home free just because you got the stash flushed in time.

BTW, we manage to stop more people flushing than those who get away with it.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is a difference between regular search warrants and no-knock warrants, right?

The no-knock generally have to involve a potential for violence, and a more serious crime. Just want to make sure of this.

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It would be funny as hell if they shut off your water first.

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I don't know but if it's in america wouldnt the police think that anyone with weed would be potentially dangerous.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is a difference between regular search warrants and no-knock warrants, right?

The no-knock generally have to involve a potential for violence, and a more serious crime. Just want to make sure of this.

That's the basic idea. Although severity of the crime is usually not the factor, it's the potential for violence.

Contrary to what a lot of people around here seem to think, so-called "no-knock" warrants are not very common. In fact, in my state that are illegal except under VERY specific circumstances. This of course does not include Federal warrants, which don't have to follow the more strict state guidline. However, they are less common among feds too.

The VAST, VAST majority of warrants are what we'd call "knock and announce". We have to knock, announce then wait. That's where the gray area comes in. How long do we have to wait. The simple answer is "a reasonable amount of time". The reality is, the judge will decide what is "reasonable" based on the specifics.

However, any actions you take to resist or hinder the warrant, or destroy evidence negate your waiting period. If there is a spotter watching you dump evidence into the toilet, all bets are off and your wait time is up. Same with hearing people trying to lock a door, load firearms etc.

It would be funny as hell if they shut off your water first.

We do it regularly. We've also broken toilets off the floor while the person was in the act of flushing.

I don't know but if it's in america wouldnt the police think that anyone with weed would be potentially dangerous.

No.

It really takes a lot to get a "no knock" warrant. I'd really have to make an indisputable case for getting it. A blanket "drugs are dangerous" excuse would not cut it.

DeathDealer

HAHAHAH!! I could just see them coming in with him at the toilet with pounds of weed stuffed in the toilet and him not being able to flush it down.

Niteshift

One of our team members used to work for the water dept. He does the water shut off for us most of the time.