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Old 06-08-2001, 02:45 AM   #11
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The system is so f|_|cked up, we just need to educate our children before propaganda programs like DARE get to them first.
I think what we need to do is to hit the media. We need TRUTH commercials about marijuana, we need ads about the government's propaganda. We need PROOF that the government is using propaganda and that the figures that are given out are exagerrated. Then we can start our own war.
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Old 06-08-2001, 12:54 PM   #12
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As you can hopefully tell by my user name, I am a hater of marijuana (and all other bad crap like that) and proud of it.

I only see one good thing to it and that is to help people with cancer and other painful stuff stop suffering. But then again, there are better alternatives. I mean, they use painkillers on women while they have babies and they don't even feel anything.

If you ask me, it's not just marijuana. I personally think that alcohol, marijuana, narcotics, tobacco products, any of that stupid sh!t is all very dumb.

There is no legitimate reason to smoke it. Some people say "God put it on this earth for a reason." Well, if he did that, then why is there stuff like poison? Some say "ooh I'm too depressed." I hate hearing that crap. I've been through quite a bit in my teen years (haven't we all) but drugs are NOT a valid alternative. Some smoke it for fun. Can't you do something else and have fun?

As for marijuana curing anything, that is a placebo effect caused by your high. It might help some stuff, but it does not cure anything. You feel good and therefore, you think it's good. But it's not. I view marijuana as synthetic pleasure, which you can get from many other things.

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Why is marijuana good?
-Lessens a few symptoms of medical problems (mostly pain)

Why is marijuana bad?
-First off, it's illegal.
-It stinks.
-It contains the tar equivalent of five (5) cigarettes.
-It's addictive and expensive most of the time.
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Old 06-08-2001, 03:04 PM   #13
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Hey Sux, that's your name form now on

Why is Marijuana bad?
-First off, it is illegal
Yes lets not question THAT
-It stinks
Good reason, yup, sarcasm sarcasm
-It contains the tar equivalent of 5 cigs
What does, a joint the same size, an ounce, a bowl, and do you even to use anywhere near the amount of weed as tobacco?
-It's addictive and expensive most of the time
It is only slightly addictive, nothing like those synthetic painkillers you mentioned.
And it is expensive because it is illegal {flame extinguished}, it is cheap to actually grow a plant of your own, it's risk and middlemen taking a profit that drive the prices up

And if you are against legal things like alcohol and tobacco, why should we think you know whether or not Marijuana should be legal? Because you think it smells, please.
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Old 06-08-2001, 03:49 PM   #14
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As you can hopefully tell by my user name, I am a hater of marijuana (and all other bad crap like that) and proud of it.

As for marijuana curing anything, that is a placebo effect caused by your high. It might help some stuff, but it does not cure anything. You feel good and therefore, you think it's good. But it's not. I view marijuana as synthetic pleasure, which you can get from many other things.
Your ignorance is brilliant. A placebo effect? Marijuana is an analgesic, and normally this is not questioned. But, apparently you are in need of edification, as you feel the need to resort specious 'reasoning'.

A synthetic pleasure.. do you really believe that because you can't experience something without the aid of a plant makes it somehow unnatural? Many people enjoy television, the internet, or a million other things that aren't necessarily natural. Our brains are made up of chemicals, electro-chemical reactions power our bodies. THC does nothing more than augment(in my opinion) something that is already there.

Anyway, regardless of the possible medical applications of marijuana, it's something that people and enjoy, and should not be illegal. People enjoy ice cream, something that can lead to obesity, yet no one is banning it. Hell, obesity and a generally sedentary life style kills more people than drugs any day.

So, in conclusion, back off. We aren't hurting you.
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Old 06-09-2001, 12:12 AM   #15
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As you can hopefully tell by my user name, I am a hater of marijuana (and all other bad crap like that) and proud of it.

Well that's nice. I'm proud to say that I use marijuana and I have seen past the "bad crap" line that so many like you have thrown at me.

I only see one good thing to it and that is to help people with cancer and other painful stuff stop suffering. But then again, there are better alternatives. I mean, they use painkillers on women while they have babies and they don't even feel anything.

Since I'm gonna assume you don't have cancer or AIDS, I will tell you that the people who do have these illnesses and have tried organic marijuana have stated themselves that it works better than the alternatives. There is a misconception that since a medicine comes in a pill it must be effective and not dangerous, whereas if it's something natural like marijuana or some herb then it must be ineffective. That's exactly what the government and pharmaceutical companies want you to think. Again, the people who have tried your "alternatives" and marijuana say that marijuana relieves their pain much better.

If you ask me, it's not just marijuana. I personally think that alcohol, marijuana, narcotics, tobacco products, any of that stupid sh!t is all very dumb.

Well that's good. I'm very glad to hear that you want to stay free of all natural chemicals and products that may be harmful to your health. While you're at it, quit eating fruits and vegetables, and organic products. Might as well stop eating all together and hook yourself up to an IV, God only knows, it's much safer.

There is no legitimate reason to smoke it. Some people say "God put it on this earth for a reason." Well, if he did that, then why is there stuff like poison? Some say "ooh I'm too depressed." I hate hearing that crap. I've been through quite a bit in my teen years (haven't we all) but drugs are NOT a valid alternative. Some smoke it for fun. Can't you do something else and have fun?

In my humble opinion people who are depressed shouldn't be using drugs or drinking alcohol because they might become dependant on the stuff. If you feel horrible in your natural state and drink to feel better then you might end up drinking a lot to be an alcoholic. I view marijuana and alcohol as "social" drugs where it's nice to do them with friends or ocassionaly drink or smoke alone to relax. You might say "well there are other ways to relax" but so what? I choose this way. And my research tells me that this way isn't harmful to my health so I will continue to do it because I choose to.

As for marijuana curing anything, that is a placebo effect caused by your high. It might help some stuff, but it does not cure anything. You feel good and therefore, you think it's good. But it's not. I view marijuana as synthetic pleasure, which you can get from many other things.

I view T.V. as synthetic pleasure which you can get from many other things too but that doesn't mean I think T.V. should be illegal. You can go out and play basketball instead of watching T.V. In addition, T.V. is addictive and can lead people to lose their jobs, neglect their children, and it can ruin families. But has it ruined society? No. Eating ice cream is a synthetic pleasure. Your brain is a natural thing that responds to artificial stimulation. How you choose to stimulate it is, in my opinion, up to you. As far as medicine, I don't think people really said marijuana cures anything besides certain types of brain cancer. I think most people said that marijuana is a very effective and natural pain reliever that works more effectively than a lot of commercial drugs. Let the sick people choose their own medicine. Politicians shouldn't tell them, "use this, not this, this is illegal and will stay that way because we think the druggies are trying to get you hooked on it." They are not doctors, they are politicians. And prosecuting doctors for political decisions is wrong, wrong, wrong.

OVERLOOK:
Why is marijuana good?
-Lessens a few symptoms of medical problems (mostly pain)

Why is marijuana bad?
-First off, it's illegal.
Now wait a minute. You're using circle reasoning. Why is marijuana illegal? Because it's bad. Why is it bad? Because it's illegal. Let's stop and think here. Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it's bad, and just because something IS legal doesn't mean it's good! To determine if something is bad or good we should use a scientific approach, not a political one, and let me tell you, all the government funded research stated that marijuana is a very safe thereputic substance with little to no risk of harm to the human body. But since such statements are bold, they are supressed by politics.
-It stinks.
I hope you mean odor wise. If not then your arguments are starting to sound like a 5 year old's.
-It contains the tar equivalent of five (5) cigarettes.
And since the average tobacco smoker consumes 20-40 cigarettes a day as opposed to 2 cigarettes a day for the average marijuana smoker, it means a 25% to 50% less risk of long term lung damage. Consider the fact that a heavy smoker's life expectancy is lowered by 15 years or so, that means a marijuana smoker's life expectancy should only be 4 to 8 years shorter. That is, of course, assuming that the cancer causing agent in tobacco is also found in marijuana, which no one knows for sure yet. Some believe it is the pesticide used to cultivate tobacco that causes the cancer, which is a sigh of relief because cannabis doesn't use that pesticide.
-It's addictive and expensive most of the time.
Hold on. It's expensive because it's illegal. That doesn't mean it is marijuana that is the problem it is the marijuana LAW. Second of all, I beg to differ... while tobacco is physically addictive because the substance nictotine creates a physical dependency, marijuana lacks a physically addictive substance and is only psychologically addictive much in the same way that you enjoy READING a lot or using your computer. Marijuana smokers like to smoke marijuana.. that doesn't mean that they have to. Those that establish a complex habit of smoking marijuana usually have addictive personalities. They irresponsibly engage in something that is considered fun while overlooking important responsibilities and family duties.
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Old 06-09-2001, 05:17 PM   #16
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a marijuana hater... hmmm..

i feel that it should be in a different catagory then other drugs... different then prescriptions, different then heroin and crack, different then asprin....

weed was produced by mother nature, and it doesn't impare- just relaxes you... its funny to think that in america the land of the free people are still this anal about stuff like this

have a good day everyone

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Old 06-09-2001, 05:20 PM   #17
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o yeah how can you be a proud hater?
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Old 03-27-2002, 12:15 AM   #18
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Every thing Huh? mentioned is completly true and if the government were to take a survey asking every body in canada or the US i think the results would be different, i know tons of teenagers who smoke weed, and it's not addictive it's just, well fun.
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I understand but do not agree so much because..... your gonna smoke it and get it either way, RIGHT? I hate cigs and hate when people smoke it around me and blow it near me and there is so many people that will feel the same about pot... such as me with a joint.... those are so nasty.... I say ban CIGS LOL LOL!!

POT MAY help with some health problems BUT it's like drinking it effects your judgment and makes you drive like a douche therefore its bad because just like with drinking people would say don't do it and drive, but people will.... we don't need MORE people to DIE because of fucking idiots!

Look at cigs, they are just as unhealthy if not worse BUT they do NOT impair your judgment.

I understand that people do it ANYWAY but even more will if its legal.

See everyone would look like this:
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