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Old 06-03-2001, 01:23 AM   #1
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I am allergic to cats. And i have Athsma. If you give me a cat and let me pet it and rub over my neck, my allergies will kick in. My breathing will then cut short. If you give me a joint and i smoke it, my breathing will restore. It relaxes my body and relaxes my breathing. I don't know how it works, but it does... marijuana cures my athsma. I don't need scientific tests to prove that marijuana helps my breathing, because its something that i can prove. Thus it is FACT. If anyone doesn't believe me then contact me, fly over to where i live and i will prove it.

To all those people that do not think marijuana should not be legalized-- you are all so, so wrong.

The govenment is all propaganda... really. They reject any studies that don't support the opinion that "it should be illegal." Do some research at a library. it's true.

Supporting the opinion that marijuana should be illegal also means that you are a racist. Here is why... Have you even wondered why marijuana was made illegal in the first place? It was the end of the mexical revolution, all the mexicans went to the United States and flocked to "jazz houses" where blacks and mexicans sat around, smoked marijuana and played music. People associated jazz houses with mexicans-- and eventually marijuana.

At the same time, the govenment was losing a lot of money on paper production, because making paper out of hemp was a faster, cheaper, and more efficient process. They started the "marijuna tax act of 1937", which paid back some of the money they were losing on hemp. Because hemp is so much faster then traditional paper-making methods, the govenment eventually decided to make hemp (and its near cousin, marijuana) both illegal.

Because mexicans and blacks didn't have the best reputation at the time, the federal government decided it would be most efficient to associate the public's negative opinion with marijuana with the mexicans and blacks, to discourage the use of both hemp and marijuana. This is when propaganda films like "reefer madness" were produced, again on government funds.

Murders and violent crimes around that time period were posted in local newspapers as being caused "by marijuana". People began to associate crime with marijuana, thus making it easy to have as little opposition as possible. Who is going to listen to the minority? it still goes on today...

The truth is, marijuana makes a person more passive. Marijuana cannot cause death, or cause a person to do anything violent. Any ideas like this are all government propaganda.

Go to your local bookstore or library and read a few credible books on marijuana. You will learn a lot. Look at propaganda with both eyes.

The war on drugs is a war on people like me and you-- and I will fight back in every way i can.

History repeats itself- prohibition on alcohol failed and it will with marijuana too. It just takes time and honest education. The kind of knowledge you can read in a library, not hear from an arrogant police officer.

50 years from now our children are going to look back and blame us for a sterile life. That's when things are going to change.
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Old 06-03-2001, 01:40 AM   #2
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I totally agree with u. For the government its all about propaganda and everything revolves around money. Anyone can grow marijuana and smoke it and the gov knows this. Cigarets on the other hand which r more harmful and addictive the government allows because they can make tax money. THe gov doesnt care about our opinion and well being all they care about is money, control and POWER. I guess they feel real big when they dont legalize something almost every1 belives should b legalized
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Old 06-03-2001, 01:48 AM   #3
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I would like to see some class action law suits filed against the government. It seems to me that the governments rejection of their own studies that marijuana does have medicinal value along with the sworn statements of those benefiting from it's use is clearly an act of willful negligence... perhaps even criminally so.
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Old 06-03-2001, 03:59 AM   #4
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The ONLY way that marijuana is going to become legal is if a group of intellegent people think of a plan to prove to the public about the benefits of marijuana.

The government gives the public propaganda, so we should give the public propaganda to refute the government. The only problem with that is funds-- the government takes our money before we even touch it, so a national drug education campaign would require a lot of money. But then soccer mom's and bad polititions and dirty police officers would throw in all of thier funds to refute us...

The movie "traffic" influenced enough opinion to spark some debate, but we need to keep it rolling...

imagine this....

Get that old lady from the movie half baked (we all know the scene... "...and its good for arthritis too!") to run a series of commercials explaining how our America's laws are letting our senior citizens suffer with cancer, MS, arthritis, glacoma, and of course, asthma. Run them during election or superbowl time....

the problem with that is that the network's monopoly disallows anything with contraversy attached. So more conventional advertising methods would have to take place. Large print posters, billboards, even flyers work.

Sometimes i feel i'm stuck under the laws...
Take search and seizure for example. If you deny a police officer a right to search you he will just get a warrent saying reasonable cause was that you denied a search (its wrong, but it happens all the time)... or say you get patted down and they find a lump...

anything hard is a weapon. A crack rock is a weapon in a search and seizure. Sure its wrong, but is there anyone that is going to lock a police officer in jail? NO!

They get congratulated for putting hard working tax paying americans in jail. The same people that pay police thier paychecks... US!!!

anyone that makes a living by having people involutarily give them thier money is a dirty human being. Police are SO unethical, but who is going to punish them?

The system is so f|_|cked up, we just need to educate our children before propaganda programs like DARE get to them first.

If you do a search on "marijuana" on yahoo, it is listed under "pharmacy".

Explain how something can be helpful in the treatment of certain health condictions and STILL be illegal to a 5 year old.

Children are the best lie detectors, they know polititions are all a crock. I knew that from as far back as i can look...

Like i said before,
Fifty years from now our children are going to look back
and blame us for a sterile life.

Marijuana laws are only 2 generations old.
Now is the time to fix them...
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Old 06-03-2001, 04:50 AM   #5
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Exclamation Marijuana is a victimless crime

Marijuana is a victimless crime-- simple as that. If i smoke a joint, nobody is harmed. There is no inconvienence to the public, no immediate danger, nothing.... it's made up.

Kinda like underage consumption. If somebody is 20 and 364 days old and has a beer, it's illegal. If they wait a day, its not. There is no science or anything to that law, its just made up by a bunch of blockheaded polititions. Just something made up. fiction. not true.

I do not believe in victimless crimes, i strongly believe that people should have the right to do whatever makes themselves happy- as long as it doesn't present any immediate danger to anyone else. If someone who is 20 and 364 days old and sits in the privacy in thier home and drinks a beer, it should not be labeled as an illegal activity. It is the same with marijuana.

What about the gateway drug theroy?

The very first drug that i took (besides asprin, coffee, asthma inhalers, etc..) was alcohol.

The entire concept of having a distorted perception of the world was introduced to me by alcohol, not marijuana.

But alcohol is legal. It also has a lethal dose. It has no medical purpose as well... Marijuana does not have a lethal dose, and I CAN PROVE that it is very effective in the treatment of my asthma.

Why can't a policy similar to tobacco or alcohol be adapted for marijuana? Because advertising works. What's your anti-drug? antidrug. ANTI-DRUG. say it in your mind a few times, doesn't it sound rediculous? It's a catch phrase that they are training our children to repeat.

Ever have a conversation with a child about drugs? There is NO knowledge to what they say, they just mindlessly repeat what people tell them.

I remember this one time i was watching over someones kid while they were at work, but i had to go to the city to do some things. I ended up in an elevator with a police officer and the kid starts crying. LOL i did the funniest thing.

I said to the kid (loud enough to where the cop could hear me too) "you know if you don't stop crying that police officer is going to lock you up in prison-- you'll never see daylight. See that gun? He'll shoot you if you don't stop crying. He doesn't care"

The cop gave me the worst look... i was laughing so hard inside because i knew he couldn't legally do a thing about what i said.

The child stopped crying and as far as i know i scared him solid. He'll never like cops, always have this fear of them shooting them. I feel a bit guilty, but it stopped the crying.

The same scare tactics are being used in schools to teach kids about the dangers of drugs. But its so general all it does is scare them. Drugs can kill you. I cannot argue that. If i take 39 bottles of asprin my blood will be so thin i'll just die. Asprin is a drug, and asprin can kill you.

Driving can also kill you. Easily. More people died today in car accidents in the past hour then on marijuana overdoses in the history of life. Why? Because marijuana has no lethal dose. But they don't tell kids that in DARE, they just say "drugs can kill you".

Its so sad because the next generation is only being fed half the story, and i honestly can not do a thing about it.... because its funded by the government, and they aren't really telling lies, just not the entire truth.

But we can do things to educate people about the facts of marijuana. Do a search on the Internet. There are 10 times more pro-marijuana sites then anti. Doesn't that speak something?

asprin is my antidrug.

I say there has to be some worldwide date set where something happens and everyone makes something happen where our message is sent loud and clear. Instead of a rally how about have every single person FAX the president on 420 of next year. That gives almost a year to prepare. Blow his fax up. Imagine 20 million faxes coming in at once... He'll hear us.

But even he isn't going to do anything, unless marijuana is taxed heavily like tobacco or alcohol.

We all know that one of the influencing factors that marijuana is still illegal is that police officers are making MILLIONS each day from fines in court related to drug charges.

Building more jails and hiring more police officers will not solve anything, it just causes people to be more careful.

I know here where i go to school you are not allowed to smoke in the buildings. So what do people do? they go out and drive to get stoned because your chances of being caught are less that way. Which means, by avoiding the law you are putting more lives in danger by having stoned people behind the wheel instead of on a bench somewhere.
You shouldn't smoke and drive just as you shouldn't drink and drive. Some people just can't. I can, and with practice anyone can... but a lot of people just can't.

The only problem with the war on drugs is the law. Crack shouldn't be available to people... period. Marijuana should.

I mean, It's a plant. What if someone figured out that if you smoked bark off an oak tree it got you stoned...

Does it make more sense to chop down all the oak trees across the nation or encourage people not to do it? Or encourage people to do it responsibly...

The law is such a mess... something needs to happen-- or i'm moving to canada... lol

everyone in the world is laughing at our drug policy.

Does anyone have any cold and clear evidence that marijuana should be an illegal class 1 substance?

I've talked with countless people about the topic and its all brainwash.

Eventually the people in politics now and the bad cops will die of old age and we will be there to replace them.

That's when things will be ok again...
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Old 06-03-2001, 05:12 AM   #6
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Just a plant with chemicals in it. Nothing manufactured.

Just the concept that people decided for us that it is wrong... is so--- WRONG!

i mean, was our generation ever "asked" if we wanted to have marijuana available? no- we were just told that's how it is. bottom line.

Sixty four years, marijuana was illegal. That is the age of some of our parents or maybe some of the people reading this. It is also the age of people with jobs in congress...

We can do something about it.

People have a negative connotation about the word "marijuana". You say it around some people and they cringe... mostly out of paranoia.

I think the word needs to be redefined to the world. Simple as that. Clear the slate about the myths are marijuana and start over.

How about an ad campaign-- "forget what you heard about marijuana. The facts are in and this is the TRUTH". And explain that it can induce appitite, cause relaxation for people with stress problems, help clear up your breathing, and help you clear up your perceptions.

Its so fuct up.... how the law has us stuck.

something drastic and somethign soon needs to happen...

Sixty Four years we have been in prohibition....

I say at 65 we retire that senseless, discriminating law....


Peace. Good night...
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Old 06-03-2001, 03:54 PM   #7
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Say if i moved to californina and got a doctors recommendation to use marijuana to treat my asthma- but i got had a job that did drug testing...

could they legally fire me or would i be protected under the workplace disabilities laws?

My employers couldn't deny me my medication, because that is just WRONG...

That could be an interesting lawsuit...

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Old 06-03-2001, 04:23 PM   #8
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I believe in California random drug testing has been ruled unconstitutional since it is a search without probable cause. They can test for jobs that effect public safety or for new job applicants. I haven't heard of marijuana relieving asthma symptoms before. My understanding is a medical authority has to approve an illness as being responsive to marijuana treatment before the law can protect you.
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Never heard of the effects of marijuana and asthma?

Look here

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/...n/tashkin1.htm

or look here

http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v00.n1746.a04.html

here is one too....

http://members.nbci.com/CamballMark/Main.htm

Do a search on the internet for "marijuana AND asthma". There is a lot on it... what is does is clears up your breathing.

You know that hollow feeling in your chest that you get after you smoke a big fatty? Feels so good when your breathing is short but your lungs aren't keeping up. Almost like my lungs "expand"...

smoking weed cures my asthma.

I can prove it, it's true.
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Old 06-08-2001, 01:32 AM   #10
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As i've come to see it maryjuana will not be legalized untill they come up with a way to make more money on it than they do.Do you honestly think they care about maryjuana and the users.I wouldn't be surprized if they puffed.They probably don't really get tested or care or nething.
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